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What will your hero Trump do now?

On January 29, the fighting in Avdiivka, a town in eastern Ukraine within Ukrainian government-controlled territory, seriously escalated.

The fighting began close to the demarcation line and six kilometers north of Donetsk (see map), and continued until at least February 3.

According to official reports, 13 Ukrainian soldiers were killed and 93 were wounded since the fighting intensified. Three civilians were killed and one wounded, and a British journalist was wounded and later operated on in the Dnipro hospital.

Heavy shelling from the separatist-controlled territories also affected nearby residential areas. The town was cut off from electricity, heat and water supplies, and repairs could not begin immediately due to continued hostilities, despite the brutally cold temperatures.

Now Avdiivka is slowly recovering. Water, heat and electricity were finally restored on February 6. The Ukrainian government-controlled side’s response to the shooting targeted Donetsk and its suburbs; the city also suffered from cuts in water and electricity supplies, which were restored on February 6.

Hostilities also escalated near the towns of Mariupol, Mariinka, Opytne, Pisky, Popasna and others. The OSCE Special Monitoring Mission to Ukraine reports of a drastic, unprecedented increase in the number of ceasefire violations within the Avdiivka-Yasynuvata-Donetsk airport triangle since January 29.

We examined the key factors, both global and local, that might help explain the current escalation.
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What will your hero Trump do now?
I don't know...

I don't know any "hero Trump"...

I know a president Trump, and I expect he couldn't do anything worse then when Putin annexed Crimea and Obama did NOTHING...
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I don't think Trump will draw any red lines anywhere for the Russian monkey to look at and be frightened.
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I don't know...

I don't know any "hero Trump"...

I know a president Trump, and I expect he couldn't do anything worse then when Putin annexed Crimea and Obama did NOTHING...
Want to bet?
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I'll bet you a million to one Putin backs off.
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As far as I can tell from scanning the article, the closest this headline gets to being accurate is to say, "fighting resumed in eastern Ukraine the day after Putin and Trump's conversation failed to result in sanctions being dropped, which could be interpreted as Putin sending a message to Trump."

That seems pretty far from "Putin verbalised a threat to Trump."

This is just theater though. The sanctions will get lifted or the pee pee tape will be forthcoming.
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This is just theater though. The sanctions will get lifted or the pee pee tape will be forthcoming.
So do you mean that Putin will make Trump into his sock monkey, like he did Obama?
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So do you mean that Putin will make Trump into his sock monkey, like he did Obama?
Trump is already Putins bitch. He's already lifted some of the sanctions. Just waiting for a good enough excuse to lift the rest so his buddy's can start drilling. Didn't you hear, Flynn promised his pals in Moscow they would after all.


If you are referring to the 'red line', Obama actually did the right thing, in my opinion. Though I can understand why many people would disagree, Kerry and Clinton certainly did.
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If you are referring to the 'red line', Obama actually did the right thing, in my opinion. Though I can understand why many people would disagree, Kerry and Clinton certainly did.
That, and Obama's remark to Medvedev about more flexibility after the election.
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That, and Obama's remark to Medvedev about more flexibility after the election.
IN regards to a European missile shield if I recall correctly. Not sure how that fits in, considering that the program went live last year and Russia, was pretty much left out of it.
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