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Hmmm, It's looking more interesting


BBC correspondent Paul Wood came forward Wednesday to reveal that there are multiple intelligence sources alleging Russia is in possession of potentially embarrassing or compromising material regarding President-elect Donald Trump. Formerly, only a single source was known to have been aware of the alleged material.

"I saw the report, compiled by the former British intelligence officer, back in October," Wood said. "He is not, and this is the crucial thing, the only source for this.” The Wall Street Journalalleges the British source is Christopher Steele, a director of the London-based Orbis Business Intelligence Ltd.

A member of the U.S. intelligence community also told Wood that "at least one East European intelligence service was aware 'that the Russians had kompromat or compromising material on Mr. Trump,'" Raw Story reports. Wood said that he "got a message back" from the U.S. intelligence community member and that there is reportedly "more than one tape, not just video, but audio as well, on more than one date, in more than one place, in both Moscow and St. Petersburg."

Wood did add, however, that "nobody should believe something just because an intelligence agent says it."

BuzzFeedNews has been heavily criticized for publishing the unsubstantiated intelligence in full Tuesday night, which alleges collusion between Trump and Russia as well as the existence of a tape that would be embarrassing for Trump were it to be released. CNN carried similar, but less detailed, allegations. Kremlin spokesman Dmitry Peskov on Wednesday denied the reports and called them "an absolute fiction" and "a total bluff." Trump has called the reports "fake news" and dismissed all that has been alleged.
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Bu-bu-but Hillary's emails...
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Is everyone behind of the real news?...

The CIA deemed the dossier worthless (It was created by a FORMER British intelligence person who was being PAID to whip up opposition research)...

It was never presented to either Trump or Obama (which is another media lie), but they were told of it AS AN EXAMPLE THAT BULLSH*T FAKE NEWS IS OUT THERE....

Donald Trump Wasn’t Told About Unverified Russia Memo, Official Says

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President-elect Donald Trump was not told about unverified reports that Russia has compromising information on him during last week's intelligence briefing, according to a senior intelligence official with knowledge of preparations for the briefing.

A summary of the unverified reports was prepared as background material for the briefing, but not discussed during the meeting, the official said. During Trump's press conference Wednesday morning, the president-elect said he was made aware of the information "outside that meeting."

A 35-page memorandum published by BuzzFeed on Tuesday includes claims that the Russian government has been cultivating, supporting and assisting Trump for five years — even obtaining compromising information in an effort to blackmail him. (BuzzFeed is partially funded by the parent company of NBC News.) The document, which was not prepared by the U.S. government, contains obvious errors. It was originally generated as part of opposition research by anti-Trump Republicans and then shopped by Democrats.

Two U.S. officials told NBC News that materials prepared for Trump in advance of last week's intelligence briefing included damaging allegations from the memorandum — unverified by American intelligence agencies — about his dealings with the Russians.

Officials prepared a two-page summary of the memo for Trump's briefing Friday at Trump Tower in New York. The summary was an "annex," or addendum, included in the "supporting documents" that accompanied the classified briefing report.

While multiple officials say the summary was included in the material prepared for the briefers, the senior official told NBC News that the briefing was oral and no actual documents were left with the Trump team in New York. During the briefing, the president-elect was not briefed on the contents of the summary .

"Intel and law enforcement officials agree that none of the investigations have found any conclusive or direct link between Trump and the Russian government period," the senior official said.

According to the senior official, the two-page summary about the unsubstantiated material made available to the briefers was to provide context, should they need it, to draw the distinction for Trump between analyzed intelligence and unvetted "disinformation."
Now what SHOULD have everyone angry as all hell is how this dossier was LEAKED from a US government agency to the media...Looks like the Left has a conniption fit when foreigners trick a stupid Democrat to hand over the keys to the front door of its non-government server, but are EEEEEEEERILY quiet about the CIA waving their documents in the air and yelling "Who wants a copy?!?!?!"...
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Bu-bu-but Hillary's emails...
Something something Benghazi...
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Is everyone behind of the real news?...

The CIA deemed the dossier worthless (It was created by a FORMER British intelligence person who was being PAID to whip up opposition research)...

It was never presented to either Trump or Obama (which is another media lie), but they were told of it AS AN EXAMPLE THAT BULLSH*T FAKE NEWS IS OUT THERE....

Donald Trump Wasn’t Told About Unverified Russia Memo, Official Says
Isn't the REAL news that Trump is getting his comeuppance for the Birther bull****?
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Isn't the REAL news that Trump is getting his comeuppance for the Birther bull****?
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According to the senior official, the two-page summary about the unsubstantiated material made available to the briefers was to provide context, should they need it, to draw the distinction for Trump between analyzed intelligence and unvetted "disinformation."
Intelligence told Trump that this was an example of a fake document...

The media reported it as if Trump (and Obama) were told about the document because it was legitimate...That was a lie...

Now if you want to believe that the media did this on purpose to give someone their "comeuppance", then that's an admission to what the media really is...
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As stated...

Intelligence told Trump that this was an example of a fake document...

The media reported it as if Trump (and Obama) were told about the document because it was legitimate...That was a lie...

Now if you want to believe that the media did this on purpose to give someone their "comeuppance", then that's an admission to what the media really is...
I actually don't care. The media is a complete **** show. Finding an outlet to trust is like trying to find a virgin prostitute. They'll all tell you they are but really... I mean fake news is about 80% of the reason Chancellor Cheeto is something we actually have to deal with.

This is why I prefer journals and peer-reviewed material when I can get it.

What I do care about is Trump getting his and the Republicans getting theirs. I keep hearing about all this "bipartisanship" bullsh*t but there was never an effort on behalf of the Republicans to be bipartisan. They weren't even the loyal opposition. Just flat out the opposition.

Would it be nice to be bipartisan? Sure. But the Republicans don't really want that. They just want to trick the moderates in to thinking they want it.

I do look forward to more evidence about Trump's links to Russia coming out. As well as Tillerson. And the Russian influence on our election. I want the American people to see how easily they were played.
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I actually don't care. The media is a complete **** show. Finding an outlet to trust is like trying to find a virgin prostitute. They'll all tell you they are but really... I mean fake news is about 80% of the reason Chancellor Cheeto is something we actually have to deal with.

This is why I prefer journals and peer-reviewed material when I can get it.

What I do care about is Trump getting his and the Republicans getting theirs. I keep hearing about all this "bipartisanship" bullsh*t but there was never an effort on behalf of the Republicans to be bipartisan. They weren't even the loyal opposition. Just flat out the opposition.

Would it be nice to be bipartisan? Sure. But the Republicans don't really want that. They just want to trick the moderates in to thinking they want it.

I do look forward to more evidence about Trump's links to Russia coming out. As well as Tillerson. And the Russian influence on our election. I want the American people to see how easily they were played.

THIS IS REALLLY INTERESTING. Since the Independent is owned by Russian Oligarch with ties to putin, and now they are confirming the BBC story..... whats going on here?

Donald Trump Russia claims: CIA agents 'say there may be more than one tape of sexual nature' | The Independent

A BBC reporter who made enquiries to the CIA about the allegations said he received a message from the agency saying they had more than one source for the claims, which they regarded as “credible”.

“There was supposedly more than one tape, not just video but audio, more than one date, and not just in Moscow but in St Petersburg as well,” said Paul Wood in a live broadcast from Washington.




Is Putin indirectly threatening Trump because maybe he wants to back out of removing the sanctions with all this heat coming down on him?
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Is everyone behind of the real news?...

The CIA deemed the dossier worthless (It was created by a FORMER British intelligence person who was being PAID to whip up opposition research)...

It was never presented to either Trump or Obama (which is another media lie), but they were told of it AS AN EXAMPLE THAT BULLSH*T FAKE NEWS IS OUT THERE....

Donald Trump Wasn’t Told About Unverified Russia Memo, Official Says



Now what SHOULD have everyone angry as all hell is how this dossier was LEAKED from a US government agency to the media...Looks like the Left has a conniption fit when foreigners trick a stupid Democrat to hand over the keys to the front door of its non-government server, but are EEEEEEEERILY quiet about the CIA waving their documents in the air and yelling "Who wants a copy?!?!?!"...
Gotta love how everything needs to be fact checked now but during rallies trump would read wikileaks emails as being the absolute truth.
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Former colleagues of Steele describe him as “very credible” – a sober, cautious and meticulous professional with a formidable track record.

One former foreign office official who has known Steele for 25 years and considers him a friend, said: “The idea his work is fake or a cowboy operation is false, completely untrue. Chris is an experienced and highly regarded professional. He’s not the sort of person who will simply pass on gossip.”

The official added: “If he puts something in a report he believes there’s sufficient credibility in it for it to be worth considering. Chris is a very straight guy. He could not have survived in the job he was in if he had been prone to flights of fancy or doing things in an ill-considered way.”


Very interesting read. MI6 agents are a different breed of people entirely, certainly not to be taken lightly. Serious, considered and very intelligent. All the things Trump isn't really.
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