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Allowing a country to simply decide they own international waters is okay with republicans because they want to support Trumps comments. Whatever Trump says can be supported. All you have to be is submissive. China wants the ocean? Give it to them. Russia wants to spy on us ? Invite them to do so. Russia wants to effect our elections? Well we did it too so it's okay. Whatever Trump says can be supported by the right today. Want to trash a American POW? Sure, why not. It means nothing to anyone on the right. Nothing means anything except that Trump is POTUS. You people truly amaze me. Zero principles at all. You can't bring yourselves to complain about anything Trump says or does. The hook is set so deep it's like watching NAZI Germany II. Let's get that list of Muslims going quickly so when we get the camps ready we will have a list to go by.
Again, Mikeyy, Trump is not the President. At best Trump can put out a couple of tweets voicing his opinion. I can do that. Any action must be taken by the current President. Regarding the issues you brought up, China wants the ocean. The President is the one to say hell no, or should be. The South China Sea problem didn't just start last month. It has been ongoing for years.
The election problem, if in fact there is a problem, didn't just happen overnight. But now the left lost the election. The problem becomes excuse number 49. Trump is not POTUS. Obama is.

I know it's difficult, but if you insist on everybody stay on topic, even when bring up related issues, you might want to review your today's posts. We've got:

Countries deciding international waters.
Russia + elections + spying
Trashing a American PW/deserter.
Trump is POTUS. Actually he isn't.
Nazi Germany.
Muslims.
Camps.
Lists.
Submissive Republicans.
Supporting Trump.

And that's just this post alone.
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Again, Mikeyy, Trump is not the President. At best Trump can put out a couple of tweets voicing his opinion. I can do that. Any action must be taken by the current President. Regarding the issues you brought up, China wants the ocean. The President is the one to say hell no, or should be. The South China Sea problem didn't just start last month. It has been ongoing for years.
The election problem, if in fact there is a problem, didn't just happen overnight. But now the left lost the election. The problem becomes excuse number 49. Trump is not POTUS. Obama is.

I know it's difficult, but if you insist on everybody stay on topic, even when bring up related issues, you might want to review your today's posts. We've got:

Countries deciding international waters.
Russia + elections + spying
Trashing a American PW/deserter.
Trump is POTUS. Actually he isn't.
Nazi Germany.
Muslims.
Camps.
Lists.
Submissive Republicans.
Supporting Trump.

And that's just this post alone.
The article is not about what Obama should do about the drone. Do you understand that? Do you understand the story is about what Trump thinks should be done. You want to pretend his comments are invisible until he takes the oath that is your issue. But his comments reflect his opinions and policy beliefs. I know you want to talk about Obama but this thread has zero to do with Obama. It isn't about Obama at all. You just seem to havce an issue with Obama so every thread needs to spin to a discussion about Obama. This thread however is not about Obama and never was. This thread is about Trump's thoughts. I don't know if you can read the title of the thread. But what it says is...

"Trump says US should let China keep the drone"

That is the subject of this thread. It is clearly in the title of this thread. Very easy to find. Not hidden at all.

Now, I went on to show that this is a common theme with todays Republicans. Including trashing John McCain who Trump says was not a hero. In fact the only reason he is considered a hero is because he was a POW. Not a deserter. But the new right supported this Trump. They still do and they agree with everything he says even if it is un American. Because they are now mostly Republican. Not American.

Sorry I have to explain the thread to you and that your mental capacity doesn't allow you to understand English.
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The article is not about what Obama should do about the drone. Do you understand that? Do you understand the story is about what Trump thinks should be done. You want to pretend his comments are invisible until he takes the oath that is your issue. But his comments reflect his opinions and policy beliefs. I know you want to talk about Obama but this thread has zero to do with Obama. It isn't about Obama at all. You just seem to havce an issue with Obama so every thread needs to spin to a discussion about Obama. This thread however is not about Obama and never was. This thread is about Trump's thoughts. I don't know if you can read the title of the thread. But what it says is...

"Trump says US should let China keep the drone"

That is the subject of this thread. It is clearly in the title of this thread. Very easy to find. Not hidden at all.

Now, I went on to show that this is a common theme with todays Republicans. Including trashing John McCain who Trump says was not a hero. In fact the only reason he is considered a hero is because he was a POW. Not a deserter. But the new right supported this Trump. They still do and they agree with everything he says even if it is un American. Because they are now mostly Republican. Not American.

Sorry I have to explain the thread to you and that your mental capacity doesn't allow you to understand English.
Then way this list?

Countries deciding international waters.
Russia + elections + spying
Trashing a American PW/deserter.
Trump is POTUS. Actually he isn't.
Nazi Germany.
Muslims.
Camps.
Lists.
Submissive Republicans.
Supporting Trump.

Mikeyy, I don't about Obama, other than in the context of Trumps tweets and the current President, who you seem to believe is someone named Donald Trump.

But you miss the point, or more accurately ignore it. In rebuttal to your former digressive posts, you double down with:

McCain, the POW. Not a deserter. Has anybody said McCain is a deserter?
And the new right. Whatever that is.
More unAmerican. Applying solely to mostly Republicans.
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At least Trump said something about what happened, unlike what obama has not said.

But beside that, obama's response has not set well with our allies in the region.

http://www.nytimes.com/2016/12/18/wo...lies.html?_r=0

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BEIJING — Only a day before a small Chinese boat sidled up to a United States Navy research vessel in waters off the Philippines and audaciously seized an underwater drone from American sailors, the commander of United States military operations in the region told an audience in Australia that America had a winning military formula.

“Capability times resolve times signaling equals deterrence,” Adm. Harry B. Harris Jr. told a blue-chip crowd of diplomats and analysts at the prestigious Lowy Institute in Sydney, Australia, the leading city in America’s closest ally in the region.

In the eyes of America’s friends in Asia, the brazen maneuver to launch an operation against an American Navy vessel in international waters in the South China Sea about 50 miles from the Philippines, another close American ally, has raised questions about one of the admiral’s crucial words. It was also seen by some as a taunt to President-elect Donald J. Trump, who has challenged the One China policy on Taiwan and has vowed to deal forcefully with Beijing in trade and other issues.
So mikeyy, instead of peeing your pants about what Trump said. I would be more concerned about the panty waist response obama has obviously sent to our allies.
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At least Trump said something about what happened, unlike what obama has not said.

But beside that, obama's response has not set well with our allies in the region.

http://www.nytimes.com/2016/12/18/wo...lies.html?_r=0



So mikeyy, instead of peeing your pants about what Trump said. I would be more concerned about the panty waist response obama has obviously sent to our allies.
Comparing the two leaders, present and future. Trump has at least taken calls from Xi (Chinese leader). the head of state of Taiwan, and at least one other country, Thailand maybe? And stated his opinion concerning the drone theft.

Obama? His last communication with Xi was about 6 months ago, and the South China Sea was not discussed. He has never spoken to the Taiwan leader, and I can find no reference to communication with any other leaders in the area. He has, however, issued a "formal demarche" I had to look that one up myself. It means a gesture or action by a diplomat. About the same weight as a tweet.
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Maybe I'm wrong (a distinct possibility), but this wasn't a military sub, was it? For some reason I thought I read it was from some oceanographic company/institute that was doing some scientific sh*t.
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Maybe I'm wrong (a distinct possibility), but this wasn't a military sub, was it? For some reason I thought I read it was from some oceanographic company/institute that was doing some scientific sh*t.
You're not wrong, it was not a military piece of hardware, it was nothing more than a scientific drone mapping the ocean floor. From what I read it was mostly off the shelf type equipment and easily replaced.
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Maybe I'm wrong (a distinct possibility), but this wasn't a military sub, was it? For some reason I thought I read it was from some oceanographic company/institute that was doing some scientific sh*t.
I think it was a US naval research vessel, unarmed. We don't know much, but the territorial limits in the South China Sea are very much in dispute and often overlap.

My best guess is that the drone was operating in waters China claims and the drone was taken to make a statement.
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Pentagon demands China return US underwater drone - CNNPolitics.com

China stole US underwater drone in South China Sea as Americans watched | Fox News

The drone was worth about 150K and from what I'm reading this is just china being a petulant little child because Trump talked to the president of Taiwan.
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Pentagon demands China return US underwater drone - CNNPolitics.com

China stole US underwater drone in South China Sea as Americans watched | Fox News

The drone was worth about 150K and from what I'm reading this is just china being a petulant little child because Trump talked to the president of Taiwan.
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