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New rule would let VA provide sex reassignment surgery to transgender vets

By: Leo Shane III, Military Times, June 2, 2016

Veterans Affairs doctors could begin providing sex reassignment surgery in coming years under a new rule proposed by the department.

The move would remove a long-held ban on the surgery and likely provide another cultural point of controversy in the wake of federal rules, issued last month, that mandate public schools allow transgender students to use the bathroom of the gender they choose.

The proposal, made public this week by transgender advocates and Time magazine, states that past surgical procedures were poorly understood. Officials therefore could not justify providing them to veterans with gender dysphoria, a condition experienced by individuals who don’t identify with their biological gender for a variety of mental and physiological reasons.

“However, increased understanding of both gender dysphoria and surgical techniques in this area have improved significantly, and surgical procedures are now widely accepted in the medical community as medically necessary treatment for gender dysphoria,” the proposed rule says.

“Additionally, recent medical research shows that gender dysphoria is a serious condition that has had severe medical consequences for certain patients if transition-related surgeries and procedures are not provided.”

Advocates hailed the move as both an important step forward for equality and a signal that the department is committed to offering the best available health care to all veterans.

"So many veterans rely on the VA for important medical care that they have earned serving our nation, including transgender veterans,” said Ashley Broadway-Mack, president of the American Military Partner Association. “Gender confirmation surgery is often a critically important and medically necessary treatment, and lifting this ban is long overdue."

Decisions on whether veterans should undergo the surgery would be made on a case-by-case basis, after consultation with VA medical experts.

No timetable has been specified for when the department might start offering the surgery, but such changes can take several years to work through federal bureaucracy.

VA officials told Time magazine that the proposed change has already been in the works since 2014, the same year Medicare officials lifted a ban on the surgery.

The National Center for Transgender Equality estimates that more than 134,000 veterans are transgender, and more than 15,000 transgender individuals are serving in military today despite rules forbidding them from serving openly.

Leo Shane III covers Congress, Veterans Affairs and the White House for Military Times. He can be reached at lshane@militarytimes.com.

How flipping stupid, the dumb morons at the V.A. can't even fix sick people but now they want to do sex changes. That is bullshlt. The V.A. lets people die because they can't get appointments, some even die is their freaking PARKING LOT, they give people AIDS for God's sake, but they want to do sex changes.

No wonder Obama has fired 150 Generals. He probably fired the one's that were against this stupid shlt.

I hope Trump puts the kibosh on this crappola.
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Hopefully they will fire all the liberal generals that Obama appointed and stop the social experiment they have inflicted on the military. I also read that they are requiring all military personnel to go through remedial training on how to treat transgender people. The last 8 years have concentrated more on social programs than military training. Does anyone wonder why we are having a hard time recruiting new people?
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how flipping stupid, the dumb morons at the v.a. Can't even fix sick people but now they want to do sex changes. That is bullshlt. The v.a. Lets people die because they can't get appointments, some even die is their freaking parking lot, they give people aids for god's sake, but they want to do sex changes.

No wonder obama has fired 150 generals. He probably fired the one's that were against this stupid shlt.

I hope trump puts the kibosh on this crappola.
they have done this in state prisons since the 80s. Yes it helps with managing prison populations. For veterans it would just be humane i guess
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they have done this in state prisons since the 80s. Yes it helps with managing prison populations. For veterans it would just be humane i guess
Tax payers should not be paying for this crap, in prison or in the military. Just because a guy says he "feels" like a woman, does not mean is should be. Let them pay for it themselves and take time off without pay. It is not a medical problem, it is a mental problem.
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they have done this in state prisons since the 80s. Yes it helps with managing prison populations. For veterans it would just be humane i guess
For whatever it's worth I don't believe Sulu that people are freaking out over a Black Santa at the Mall of America. He's a liar.
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Tax payers should not be paying for this crap, in prison or in the military. Just because a guy says he "feels" like a woman, does not mean is should be. Let them pay for it themselves and take time off without pay. It is not a medical problem, it is a mental problem.
Yep, you nailed it. I don't care if you feel you're a dog in a cats body. If you want out (of the dog's body) it's your expense and nobody else. Beyond being incredibly ridiculous idea, it's unbelievable someone would want to burden the VA with something else when they can't even provide adequate service now.
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Tax payers should not be paying for this crap, in prison or in the military. Just because a guy says he "feels" like a woman, does not mean is should be. Let them pay for it themselves and take time off without pay. It is not a medical problem, it is a mental problem.
they go through the screening just like in the real world with a psych evaluation etc. not everyone off the street gets one At first it shocked me too but after working in a prison for a short while I see where a good warden is usually in favor of this since it does make his job easier. if you are female you are in a female prison away from male prisoners where violence may start that endangers guards and others
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How flipping stupid, the dumb morons at the V.A. can't even fix sick people but now they want to do sex changes. That is bullshlt. The V.A. lets people die because they can't get appointments, some even die is their freaking PARKING LOT, they give people AIDS for God's sake, but they want to do sex changes.

No wonder Obama has fired 150 Generals. He probably fired the one's that were against this stupid shlt.

I hope Trump puts the kibosh on this crappola.
Every try to be totally honest? While health care treatment by the VA is excellent overall there have been a few isolated problems at specific clinics such as the delays for treatment as the Phoenix VA hospital that wasn't happening elsewhere nearly as much or at all at most clinics even though the VA patent load has soared in recent years.

More importantly why not mention the fact that the Obama Administration has already fixed the problems mentioned with only two small caveats.

First is that the VA needs a lot more funding because the patent load is far greater that ever expected because of the invasions of Afghanistan and Iraq.

Next is the fact that no one can really prevent a veteran from committing suicide in a VA parking lot and it's a bit dishonest to blame the VA hospitals for a suicide.
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Every try to be totally honest? While health care treatment by the VA is excellent overall there have been a few isolated problems at specific clinics such as the delays for treatment as the Phoenix VA hospital that wasn't happening elsewhere nearly as much or at all at most clinics even though the VA patent load has soared in recent years.

More importantly why not mention the fact that the Obama Administration has already fixed the problems mentioned with only two small caveats.

First is that the VA needs a lot more funding because the patent load is far greater that ever expected because of the invasions of Afghanistan and Iraq.

Next is the fact that no one can really prevent a veteran from committing suicide in a VA parking lot and it's a bit dishonest to blame the VA hospitals for a suicide.
You are living in a parallel universe.
If the VA is soooooo under funded, why in the Hell do they want to start doing sex change operations.

Obama has not fixed the problems, give me a break. Tell that to the guy that just got AIDS there.


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You are living in a parallel universe.
If the VA is soooooo under funded, why in the Hell do they want to start doing sex change operations.

Obama has not fixed the problems, give me a break. Tell that to the guy that just got AIDS there.


https://veterans.house.gov/accountability
So you want to fund the VA more? Or just moan and groan how bad government is?
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