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Old 10-28-2016, 11:45 PM
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Democratic presidential candidate Hillary Clinton and former President Bill Clinton have been renovating a house they bought next to their Chappaqua residence without several required local permits, according to building department records.

An in-ground swimming pool at 33 Old House Lane — the 3,631-square-foot, ranch-style house the Clintons bought for $1.16 million in August — had been back-filled and covered with gravel, according to an October report from town Building Inspector William Maskiell.

Maskiell, who said he visited the home Oct. 5, after the department received a complaint about excavation done there, said as he headed to the basement to talk to the contractor, he noticed the kitchen, floors and walls appeared to have been recently renovated and new electrical fixtures were being installed in the ceiling. The person who complained was not identified.

Maskiell said he told the contractor that permits were required.

"During conversation I was told that the owners wanted to have all work done and finished by Thanksgiving and were quite adamant about it and what had started as a paint job turned into this," Maskiell's Oct. 17 inspection report said.

A Clinton spokesperson did not return requests for comment.

Maskiell said in an interview that sometimes homeowners come in to file for a permit, but the majority of the time it is either an architect or contractor.

"The homeowners have to sign the applications because it's their property," Maskiell said. "If you own the house, you're responsible on everything that goes on with that house."

At 15 Old House Lane, a home at the end of a cul-de-sac where the Clintons have lived on and off since buying it for $1.7 million in 1999, Maskiell wrote that “during a standard records search and follow-up conversations” there were some outstanding permits there as well. That includes an electrical inspection at a library/gym, and a sprinkler sign-off by an engineer and the town water department, according to the building inspector’s October reports.
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That's OK,she'll be moving into a house she lived in next January.
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OMG what a reach. I'll bet they paid the contractors who did the work though didn't they?
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Having been around the construction business or over 65 years, I will say that I know of no situation where the homeowner was tasked with obtaining the permits. That is part of what you pay the contractor for.
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Having been around the construction business or over 65 years, I will say that I know of no situation where the homeowner was tasked with obtaining the permits. That is part of what you pay the contractor for.
That was addressed...

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Maskiell said in an interview that sometimes homeowners come in to file for a permit, but the majority of the time it is either an architect or contractor.

"The homeowners have to sign the applications because it's their property," Maskiell said. "If you own the house, you're responsible on everything that goes on with that house."
If the Clintons hired contractors too ignorant to get the proper documentation and too ignorant to have them sign applications, what does it say about them?...
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That was addressed...

If the Clintons hired contractors too ignorant to get the proper documentation and too ignorant to have them sign applications, what does it say about them?...
My point is that there is a lot to blame Hillary for, but this is a contractor problem, not a homeowner problem. Most homeowners lack the knowledge to obtain the necessary permits.

I'm aware that local laws differ, but I've never signed off on a permit as a homeowner. A friend of mine has recently had a major renovation done as well as a current pool project. He also did not sign off on the permits.
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My point is that there is a lot to blame Hillary for, but this is a contractor problem, not a homeowner problem. Most homeowners lack the knowledge to obtain the necessary permits.

I'm aware that local laws differ, but I've never signed off on a permit as a homeowner. A friend of mine has recently had a major renovation done as well as a current pool project. He also did not sign off on the permits.
Agree. I had a project done but I took care of the permits and code inspections myself. It was an interesting process. HRC's remodeling permits should've been handled by the contractors. On the other hand, the permission to set up that home brew server should have been denied if authority had been sought and clearly there were code violations.
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That was addressed...

If the Clintons hired contractors too ignorant to get the proper documentation and too ignorant to have them sign applications, what does it say about them?...
That they are not in the construction business? When I read your writing I see you want them to be guilty and criminal
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Damn shame it couldn't have been a father / son event. IMHO.
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