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Default Trey Gowdy Destroys FBI’s James Comey over Hillary Clinton’s ‘Intent’

After cataloging in detail Hillary Clinton's lies about her criminal behavior with her email while she was Secretary of state, FBI Director James Comey announced he was recommending no charges be filed because she had not displayed requisite "intent" to violate the law. After delivering Hillary's get out of jail free card by imposing a requirement for proof of intent where none existed in the statute Comey left the podium without answering a single question from the press.

This Thursday Comey agreed to submit to questioning by Congress including former Federal prosecutor Trey Gowdy. After leading Comey through a series of yes or no questions laying out the foundation of Hillary's intent as show by the lies she told about her conduct, such as she had turned over all work related emails, Gowdy tapped into his experience as a prosecutor to show how Hillary clearly manifested intent.

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GOWDY: …I’m going to ask you to put on your old hat. False exculpatory statements — they are used for what?

COMEY: Well, either for a substantive prosecution, or for evidence of intent in a criminal prosecution.

GOWDY: Exactly. Intent, and consciousness of guilt, right? Is that right?

COMEY: Right.

GOWDY: Consciousness of guilt, and intent. In your old job, you would prove intent, as you just referenced, by showing the jury evidence of a complex scheme that was designed for the very purpose of concealing the public record. And you would be arguing, in addition to concealment, the destruction that you and I just talked about, or certainly the failure to preserve. You would argue all of that under the heading of intent.

You would also be arguing the pervasiveness of the scheme: when it started, when it ended, and the number of emails, whether they were originally classified or up-classified. You would argue all of that under the heading of intent.

You would also probably, under “common scheme or plan,” argue the “burn bags” of daily calendar entires, or the missing daily calendar entires as a common scheme or plan to conceal.

Two days ago, Director, you said a reasonable person in her position should have known a private email is no place to sand and receive classified information. And you’re right: an average person does know not to do that. This is no average person: this is a former First Lady, a former United States Senator, and a former Secretary of State that the president now contends is the most competent, qualified person to be president since [Thomas] Jefferson. He didn’t say that in ’08, but he says it now.

She affirmatively rejected efforts to give her a state.gov account, she kept these private e-mails for almost two years, and only turned them over to Congress because we found out she had a private e-mail account.

So you have a rogue e-mail system set up before she took the oath of office; thousands of what we now know to be classified e-mails, some of which were classified at the time; one of her more frequent e-mailed comrades was, in fact, hacked, and you don’t know whether or not she was; and this scheme took place over long period of time and resulted in the destruction of public records — and yet you say there is insufficient evidence of intent?

You say she was “extremely careless,” but not intentionally so. Now, you and I both know intent is really difficult to prove. Very rarely do defendants announce, “On this day, I intend to break this criminal code section. Just to put everyone on notice, I am going to break the law on this day.” It never happens that way. You have to do it with circumstantial evidence — or, if you’re Congress, and you realize how difficult it is to prove specific intent, you will formulate a statute that allows for “gross negligence.”
Gowdy Destroys FBI's James Comey over Hillary Clinton's 'Intent'

Yet Comey stubbornly clung to his conclusion that Hillary was not criminally liable due to a lack of intent. Yep, the fix was definitely in, one set of laws for us and none for Clintons.
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I liked it!

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Video of Gowdy pontificating is hardly "destroying" anybody...
Funny how they cut the video before Comey's reply.

Comey hit the nail on the head.
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[QUOTE=foundit66;827067Comey hit the nail on the head.[/QUOTE]

In this exchange, I wonder if...

I would like to sit down and listen to these two over a good bottle of scotch. I am thinking it would be very interesting to hear them in private, and with out time limits.

Actually I think it would be a very interesting conversation. One would hope that at some point in time in the future they would enjoy that as well.

Of course I don't think Comey's last statement applies, and I am thinking Gowdy thinks the same to.

I like Grassly's idea with charging her with a misdomeaner. The bar is alot lower to manage. Much easier sailing to get a conviction. Of course at the point Hillary would be barred from any classifed information, rendering Hilary unable to be POTUS. Good thinking in my book.

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So what was the classified information that was released...Does anybody know?

I seem to recall in WWII this happened occasionally and the intention was to mislead the enemy.
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So what was the classified information that was released...Does anybody know?

I seem to recall in WWII this happened occasionally and the intention was to mislead the enemy.
I am not sure what the classified info was about, but your statement about misleading is right on. Hillary sought to mislead any one who would dare to see her e mail's, and that is exactly why she had the illegal private server. She was deffinately hinding some thing. Likely the Clinton foundation, and all the ill gotten money's from Muslim countries and others. If she is elected, there will be pay for play. The Muslim Brother hood will have her on speed dial. Just as they do Obama..

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I am not sure what the classified info was about, but your statement about misleading is right on. Hillary sought to mislead any one who would dare to see her e mail's, and that is exactly why she had the illegal private server. She was deffinately hinding some thing. Likely the Clinton foundation, and all the ill gotten money's from Muslim countries and others. If she is elected, there will be pay for play. The Muslim Brother hood will have her on speed dial. Just as they do Obama..

Regards, Kirk
This is really is sad. Ya just toss out whatever and hope something sticks. Purely because someone doesn't wear the same logo as you you do.
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I thought Comey handled himself well. He answered all questions and engaged in the discourse without defensiveness. There was back and forth. Gowdy, Chaffetz, and other committee members came prepared. Comey seemed quite willing to turn over some of his investigative materials. In addition to characterizing hrc22 as "extremely careless", he also thought she was technologically unsophisticated. As thought, FOIA and the Foundation weren't in the scope of this investigation, but he refused to disclose whether or not the CF was also under investigation. My take is that Comey gave hrc the benefit of the doubt but she would've been disciplined if she had remained on at the State Dept.
Now that this has been closed by the DOJ and Pagliao is in the clear, can he be recalled by Judicial Watch to answer questions? I'm sure hrc wants transparency.
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This really is sad. Ya just toss out whatever and hope something sticks. Purely because someone doesn't wear the same logo as you you do.
If you think it's sad, then disprove what I say. Your emotioally based argement is, well sadly lacking. Some times the truth hurts, as it does in this case.

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If you think it's sad, then disprove what I say. Your emotioally based argement is, well sadly lacking. Some times the truth hurts, as it does in this case.

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You really did not say anything worth of disproving. But hey that is your life all bark and no teeth.
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