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Trump: If abortions are banned, women who seek them should face ‘punishment’

APPLETON, Wis. — Republican presidential candidate Donald Trump came under fire Wednesday for saying that women should be subject to “some sort of punishment” for undergoing illegal abortions, a position that antiabortion and abortion rights groups alike emphatically denounced.

The GOP front-runner said during a pre-taped town hall hosted by MSNBC that criminal punishments would be appropriate for women seeking abortions if the procedure were made illegal nationwide. Moderator Chris Matthews pressed Trump on the practical implications of banning abortions.

“This is not something you can dodge. If you say abortion is a crime or abortion is murder, you have to deal with it under the law. Should abortion be punished?" Matthews said.

"The answer is that there has to be some form of punishment," Trump responded. "There has to be some form.”

The real estate mogul repeatedly stated during the interview that he is antiabortion but did not weigh in on what specific punishments women would face if abortions were illegal.

[Donald Trump’s abortion comments prove (again) why he could be a disaster for Republicans]

He walked back his comments within hours, amid intense criticism on social media and from women's groups, clarifying that he believes decisions about punishments should be left to the states to decide. He further clarified that he does not think such punishments should focus on the women, a reversal from his earlier comments.

“This issue is unclear and should be put back into the states for determination,” Trump said in a statement to The Post. “Like Ronald Reagan, I am pro-life with exceptions, which I have outlined numerous times.”

“[T]he doctor or any other person performing this illegal act upon a woman would be held legally responsible, not the woman,” Trump added in a second statement Wednesday. “The woman is a victim in this case as is the life in her womb.”

The Republican front-runner faces a growing problem with women voters, which has emerged as a pressing concern for Republican leaders already aware of the party’s trouble with that demographic. Polling has shown Trump sliding heavily among women in recent months; his favorability rating among women has dropped 10 percentage points since November, standing now at 23 percent, according to a Washington Post-ABC News poll taken this month. His unfavorable number is at 75 percent among women.

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criminal punishments would be appropriate for women seeking abortions if the procedure were made illegal nationwide.
That's a no-brainer. He's saying if hypothetically abortion was banned by all states and the country, then there would have to be punishments for people that broke that law. Duh. What federal law do you know of that doesn't punish you if you break it? The answer is 'none.'

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he believes decisions about punishments should be left to the states to decide. He further clarified that he does not think such punishments should focus on the women
So he believes punishments for state laws should be decided by the states and that it shouldn't focus entirely on women. What the fuq is the big deal here?

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He said you have to ban it and there has to be some form of punishment. Now he is trying to backtrack
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It should only be legal for medical reasons and not used for birth control, should be instigated not by the mother but by the doctor and the doctor should not be liable for a crime for prescribing a medically nessessary procedure
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It should only be legal for medical reasons and not used for birth control, should be instigated not by the mother but by the doctor and the doctor should not be liable for a crime for prescribing a medically nessessary procedure
That is your opinion. But we are talking about what Trump said.
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I am 100% pro-life, but I don't think anyone has any business thinking a woman should be punished if she decides to do something with her own body.

On the other hand, I think Donald Trump is beginning to get bitten by the backlash of his own silly mouth.

He doesn't know what he means from one minute to the next.

He does know he's losing ground with women voters.
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I'm in the other end, and it mostly just comes from me not believing the government should be making decisions about family planning for you. Abortion is a very difficult issue for any couple considering it, but it should be up to them and their own personal morality, not anyone in government. Reminds me way too much of China's old one-child policy, when they forced abortions on women. I certainly don't believe in that and I don't believe in forcing a woman to carry a pregnancy to term.

At the very least, it shouldn't be Donald Trump's choice for everyone.
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That is your opinion. But we are talking about what Trump said.
The questioner pressed if it was illegal , so he was right if it was illegal there would in his words be some form of as he called it punishment. that is how the law works. the news media jumped on it in their elect Hillary fervor to twist it into a stand alone statement which it was not.
i dont like trump as presidential candidate but this was a clear set up
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The questioner pressed if it was illegal , so he was right if it was illegal there would in his words be some form of as he called it punishment. that is how the law works. the news media jumped on it in their elect Hillary fervor to twist it into a stand alone statement which it was not.
i dont like trump as presidential candidate but this was a clear set up
What he said is it should be banned. He also said woman should be punished.
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What he said is it should be banned.
No, he said if abortions were illegal on a national level then there should be punishments for breaking the law.

Jesus, bro, you can't possibly be this slow.

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The GOP front-runner said during a pre-taped town hall hosted by MSNBC that criminal punishments would be appropriate for women seeking abortions if the procedure were made illegal nationwide.
And Trump is right. There is no national law anyone can name where there's no punishment for breaking it.
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