Gentlemen, we are all adults here.

There is no reason to take the conversation down to a banal level.

All of us here appreciate the exchange of ideas that we have had so far, and I for one would like to see it continue in that manner.

There is no reason for personal attacks. Disagreements should be settled by debating the POINTS involved with the arguement, not by attacking the poster that made them.

Well, dear, you see it any old way you'd like.

BTW, tinsel is silver, isn't it?

I just love it when people say 'It's not in the Bible', then when you show them it is, they say 'Well, that's not what they meant'.

That's what I thought about when i heard on the radio earlier that a "Colorado town may ban Christmas trees"
The trees are part of an old Druid tradition and "groves" are even mentioned in the bible (in a derogatory manner of course).
and as for the Jewish guy...Did the community deny him the request? If they did, then that was wrong. Jews have been putting up with Christian favored holidays for years and have not made so much as a peep.
the way I see it the best thing the community could have done was be truly all inclusive. Let the guy have his menorah, let the mangers be displayed, let the Mormon Choir ring in the New Year if they want.
Anything within reason that says,
"This is how my people celebrate winter holiday. and we hope you have a joyous day too. Here-have a cup of cheer!"
What would be wrong with that?

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Well, honestly? As one who was raised Christian and has moved on with no ill-will, I very much enjoy all the Christmas decorations and all the carols. I don't find Christmas trees particularly religious--they are a symbol of the season. Unless they are a government display rife with Christian symbols, but that is not the case where Ilive. Our City Christmas tree has no religious trimmings.

We also have a very exquisite light display every year around an historical mansion in the area that is now a county park. They do a huge menorah display too, and even though the display is in a county park it is privately funded. The ONE Christianity display is side by side with the Jewish display at the opening gate. I'll have to look closer sometime to see if the pagan (yuletide) is there as well, but honestly the whole thing is pretty secular and traditional.

I say get over Christmas, get over Chanukkah, get over Yule, Kwanzaa and Eid.

And don't ask the government to fund any of it.

Blessed holidays to all!

And I just love it when someone takes a few verses completely out of context to try to prove something is in the Bible that isn't really there.

Let's try finishing the passage from Jeremiah and see what it really says. shall we?

You quoted the following:

But you conveniently left out the remainder of the passage. Now watch what happens here when you actually pay attention to the whole passage:

Clearly, the passage is about idols and idolatry...not Christmas trees as you erroneously asserted from a half assed attempt at quoting the scripture. Further proof that this passage speaks nothing about "Christmas trees" but actually speaks about idols is a related passage from Isaiah. Now watch close and see again your references to trees and what is really happening here:

Like I said...don't you just love it when someone takes half of a passage to try to prove something is in the Bible that just isn't there?

I'm torn on the issue because I do actually believe there is a war on Christmas and atheists have lost their minds trying to stamp out Christ. On the other hand one of my neighbors has taken to turning a respectable tree on her front lawn into some tacky Easter Tree every spring. She hangs plastic eggs all over the thing and it just makes my skin scrawl. Personally, I think, if we're going to go ape$hit over decorative holiday decor we should start first and foremost with ugly and see where that goes.

Who decides ugly?

Lol--I'm sure it won't be me, but plastic eggs--while festive--are a tad tacky.

This is what I so love about being a child of the 60's, though--REAL easter eggs at Grandma & Grandpap's every Spring.

Is anybody else's town experiencing this? There's a damn shortage of SPICES here in my 'burgh! Oh--and note to self: Do NOT grocery shop right when church lets out the weekend before a major holiday! Holy Moly!

Here's a thought: How about we just call everything Thanksgiving or New Years? Those holidays seem to be cool with everybody.

Personally I love the 4th of July--but like yellow ribbons that could be seen as not PC.

Hey Zeus I love you to no end!

Moo,meow, woof!