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Old 10-02-2015, 02:19 PM
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I have a "Only tall girls in short skirts" sign I wanna hang over a really short water fountain.
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Do you have a water fountain somewhere you want to hang a "whites only" sign over?
Do I personally? No. But if someone wants to put that on their property, that's their right. It's my right to take my business elsewhere so I don't have to deal with that idiot.
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I have a "Only tall girls in short skirts" sign I wanna hang over a really short water fountain.
Any chance for a web cam on that?
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Ten pounds of b.s. in a five pound bag. They aren't fighting for anything as noble as "civil rights". They have no right to access private property where they are not wanted and on top of that demand that another person serve them. They made a big deal out of this because someone dared disagree with them. Just more rights for me but not for thee liberal crap.
A private enterprise selling to the public is no longer solely "private property" anymore. While an enterprise can discriminate for legitimate business purposes it cannot discriminate based upon nefarious personal opinions of the owners.

Try learning a little bit about civil rights. This couple was no different than a black person attempting a purchase in a "segregated" store in the South prior to the Civil Rights movement when they were denied service. It is very much a civil rights issue that addresses all forms of nefarious discrimination that denies equal protection under the law for any American.

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I don't think you get it yet, they don't care about civil rights, or more accurately they want to be able to go back to segregation and repeal civil rights. I truly believe the wedding cake thing is a shot at repealing civil rights, and they do know the implications. Just as soon as one business successfully discriminates against the first gay couple we will have segregated stores again.
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A private enterprise selling to the public is no longer solely "private property" anymore. While an enterprise can discriminate for legitimate business purposes it cannot discriminate based upon nefarious personal opinions of the owners.

Try learning a little bit about civil rights. This couple was no different than a black person attempting a purchase in a "segregated" store in the South prior to the Civil Rights movement when they were denied service. It is very much a civil rights issue that addresses all forms of nefarious discrimination that denies equal protection under the law for any American.

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A private enterprise selling to the public is no longer solely "private property" anymore. While an enterprise can discriminate for legitimate business purposes it cannot discriminate based upon nefarious personal opinions of the owners.
It is only "no longer solely private property" because government forces the owner to service those he does not want to. Its scary that some people think that type of infringement upon private property rights and freedom of association is ok.

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Based upon your comments here, I'd venture I know considerably more about them than you do.

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This couple was no different than a black person attempting a purchase in a "segregated" store in the South prior to the Civil Rights movement when they were denied service.
Your right, it isn't any different, the black person in your example shouldn't be allowed to trespass either.

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You may not like the laws or the US Constitution but everyone is entitled to equal protection under the laws of the United States.
You are right in that there are laws I do not like, even some I refuse to obey, but as for the constitution, maybe you should give it a read. The constitution backs my argument.
Entering private property where you have been told you are not wanted isn't "equal protection", it's trespassing and I wouldn't suggest trying it on my property whether I'm selling something or not.
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I don't think you get it yet, they don't care about civil rights, or more accurately they want to be able to go back to segregation and repeal civil rights. I truly believe the wedding cake thing is a shot at repealing civil rights, and they do know the implications. Just as soon as one business successfully discriminates against the first gay couple we will have segregated stores again.
What gives you the right to enter someone's private property after you have been told you are not welcome? What gives you the right to usurp theirs?
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When they open their business to the public. You guys really do want to repeal civil rights, don't you?
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Do you have a water fountain somewhere you want to hang a "whites only" sign over?
Free market, yo.
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When they open their business to the public.
Wrong, they were forced to open their business to the public by gov't, they didn't open their store to that couple, quite the opposite, gov't forced them to allow that couple in the store.
Now answer the question, if you can. What gives you the right to enter private property after you have been told you are not welcome? What gives you the right to infringe upon the owners rights?
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