Intel review backs up finding that Clinton emails had ‘top secret’ information - Page 2

jimbo · #11 (**permalink**) 09-10-2015, 08:28 AM

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Originally Posted by ShivaTD

I have a long list of reasons why I'd oppose Hillary Clinton but her email account and classified material doesn't even rank in the top 1,000 of reasons. It is so trivial as to not even be worth discussion. How about she's a slime-bag politician being a far more important reason.

It's more honest than attempting to blame Hillary's actions on someone else.

If it's so trivial as not being worth discussion, then why the long diatribe discussing?

ShivaTD · #12 (**permalink**) 09-10-2015, 08:49 AM

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Originally Posted by jimbo

It's more honest than attempting to blame Hillary's actions on someone else.

If it's so trivial as not being worth discussion, then why the long diatribe discussing?

Because Republicans are making a mountain out of a molehill.

Let's address something of importance like Hillary Clinton voting for the Iraq War Resolution and then claiming she didn't vote to go to war. Over 5,000 American soldiers died in a war that almost everyone admits was a mistake and that slime-bag Clinton tries to evade her responsibility for that war. As a combat veteran 5,000 dead American soldiers has a lot more meaning to me and it doesn't compare at all to emails that didn't result in anyone dying or any loss of security for the United States.

Benghazi wasn't Clinton's fault nor was there anything she could really do about it. It's a Republican witch hunt that ignored the real problems with Hillary Clinton. The emails are even more of a distraction from the real reasons for opposing Hillary Clinton, that's a problem, and that's why I voice the opinion that this is BS because it ignores what is really wrong with Hillary Clinton. Let's nail her based upon her BS politics and not some side-show about Benghazi or private emails.

jimbo · #13 (**permalink**) 09-10-2015, 09:13 AM

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Originally Posted by ShivaTD

Because Republicans are making a mountain out of a molehill.

Let's address something of importance like Hillary Clinton voting for the Iraq War Resolution and then claiming she didn't vote to go to war. Over 5,000 American soldiers died in a war that almost everyone admits was a mistake and that slime-bag Clinton tries to evade her responsibility for that war. As a combat veteran 5,000 dead American soldiers has a lot more meaning to me and it doesn't compare at all to emails that didn't result in anyone dying or any loss of security for the United States.

Benghazi wasn't Clinton's fault nor was there anything she could really do about it. It's a Republican witch hunt that ignored the real problems with Hillary Clinton. The emails are even more of a distraction from the real reasons for opposing Hillary Clinton, that's a problem, and that's why I voice the opinion that this is BS because it ignores what is really wrong with Hillary Clinton. Let's nail her based upon her BS politics and not some side-show about Benghazi or private emails.

Republicans are making a mountain out of a mountain. All the attempts to claim it's Bush's fault, everybody does it, why does it matter? are just Democrats hoping to minimize a deliberate major breach of security by a very high level official who now wants to move to the highest level. If her integrity is just a molehill, then we are even farther down the rat hole than I believe.

At the time of the Benghazi attack and resultant deaths of diplomats, the embassies were under the jurisdiction of the State Department, and State was headed by??. It damn well was Hillary's fault. It's probable that she did not originate the stand down order, or the ignore order, or the order to blame it on a video, but she did all of the above.

The rest of Hillary's baggage, going back to her time on the Nixon investigations, through her time as first lady in AK, to her actions as first lady in the WH, pale in comparison to her handling of the 4th highest position in the nation, her last public job.

AZRWinger · #14 (**permalink**) 09-10-2015, 09:16 AM

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Originally Posted by ShivaTD

No surprise because the State Department has a long history of very lax security related to emails. A review of former Sect of State Condoleezza Rice's and other State Department officials emails also revealed the same problem of the transmission of classified and secret material in email.

It was a culture at the State Department that didn't originate with Hillary Clinton.

It can also be noted that security protocols are often situation dependent. For example I served in Vietnam and the location of ground forces was classified and always encoded for radio transmissions.... except in some cases such as air support that needed to know where the "friendly" forces were immediately and encription wasn't pragmatically possible. In private industry I handled secret information that had to be either attended or secured... unless the fire alarm went of and then you left the material on your desk and exited the building. On a "post examination" without regard for the "situation" the security protocol was violated by not if the "situation" was addressed.

Does this apply to some of the cases of security protocol being ignored at the State Department over the last several adminstrations? In some cases we can assume that it did but without specific knowledge it would be impossible to decide.

As if there is no difference between supposed deficiencies in state department classified document procedures and Hillary setting up a private server to avoid all security and record keeping requirements.

Just like with Fast and Furious you attempt to distract from the Democrat's likely illegal behavior by insisting on an endless investigation of course including Republican administration's. Even though Hillary admits she deliberately set up her own private server and we know it illegally held classified material Hillary cannot be investigated unless we drag Condi Rice in too.

AZRWinger · #15 (**permalink**) 09-10-2015, 09:25 AM

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Originally Posted by ShivaTD

Because Republicans are making a mountain out of a molehill.

Let's address something of importance like Hillary Clinton voting for the Iraq War Resolution and then claiming she didn't vote to go to war. Over 5,000 American soldiers died in a war that almost everyone admits was a mistake and that slime-bag Clinton tries to evade her responsibility for that war. As a combat veteran 5,000 dead American soldiers has a lot more meaning to me and it doesn't compare at all to emails that didn't result in anyone dying or any loss of security for the United States.

Benghazi wasn't Clinton's fault nor was there anything she could really do about it. It's a Republican witch hunt that ignored the real problems with Hillary Clinton. The emails are even more of a distraction from the real reasons for opposing Hillary Clinton, that's a problem, and that's why I voice the opinion that this is BS because it ignores what is really wrong with Hillary Clinton. Let's nail her based upon her BS politics and not some side-show about Benghazi or private emails.

Claiming Hillary has no responsibility for Benghazi is utter partisan nonsense. Hillary has already publicly stated she was responsible. But to partisan Democrats responsibility carries no consequences, it is one of those political niceties they mouth prior to moving on to a Las Vegas fund raiser or Presidential campaign.

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