Political Wrinkles  

Go Back   Political Wrinkles > General Forum > News & Current Events
Register FAQDonate PW Store PW Trivia Members List Calendar Search Today's Posts Mark Forums Read

News & Current Events Discuss Kentucky Man Arrested For Shooting Down Neighbor's Drone at the General Forum; Kentucky Man Arrested For Shooting Down Neighbor's Drone Kentucky Man Arrested For Shooting Down Neighbor's Drone "I have a right ...

Reply
 
LinkBack Thread Tools Display Modes
  #1 (permalink)  
Old 08-05-2015, 10:53 AM
CindyB's Avatar
PW Enlightenment
 
Join Date: Aug 2012
Location: Las Vegas, Nevada
Gender: Female
Posts: 9,525
Thanks: 9,932
Thanked 5,771 Times in 3,568 Posts
Default Kentucky Man Arrested For Shooting Down Neighbor's Drone

Kentucky Man Arrested For Shooting Down Neighbor's Drone

Quote:
Kentucky Man Arrested For Shooting Down Neighbor's Drone

"I have a right as an American citizen to defend my property."

Posted: 08/03/2015 12:36 PM EDT

A Kentucky man was arrested last week after he shot down a neighbor's drone that he believed was hovering over his yard.

William "Willie" Merideth, 47, was at his Bullitt County home on July 26 when his daughters told him they saw the drone flying in the sky.

“Well, I came out and it was down by the neighbor’s house, about 10 feet off the ground, looking under their canopy that they’ve got in their back yard," Merideth told WDRB. "I went and got my shotgun and I said, ‘I’m not going to do anything unless it’s directly over my property.’"

Sure enough, according to Merideth, the drone flew his way a moment later.

"Within a minute or so, here it came," he said. "It was hovering over top of my property, and I shot it out of the sky."

The drone's owner, David Boggs, 40, later told WDRB that he was trying to have fun and take pictures of a friend's house. He said the device was worth $1,800 and that he would not fly it as low as Merideth claimed.

“We didn't hover, we didn't go down, we didn't do any of that," Boggs said. "There's no way I'm going to fly below the trees the second day I owned it.”

Police were called to the scene after Merideth shot the drone down, leading to an altercation between Merideth and Boggs.

FAA guidelines suggest flying drones below 400 feet in the air and navigating clear of "people or stadiums," CNET explains. The FAA also warns against firing at unmanned aircraft, which could cause damage or injuries on the ground.

Meredith is charged with wanton endangerment and criminal mischief, but he stands by his actions.

"I have a right as an American citizen to defend my property," Merideth said, according to NBC News. "I think -- no, I know -- that I was completely justified in protecting my family."


Hillview man arrested for shooting down drone; cites right to pr - WDRB 41 Louisville News

Quote:
LOUISVILLE, Ky. (WDRB) -- A Hillview man has been arrested after he shot down a drone flying over his property -- but he's not making any apologies for it.

It happened Sunday night at a home on Earlywood Way, just south of the intersection between Smith Lane and Mud Lane in Bullitt County, according to an arrest report.

Hillview Police say they were called to the home of 47-year-old William H. Merideth after someone complained about a firearm.

RELATED: Drone owner disputes shooter's allegations; produces video he claims shows flight path

When they arrived, police say Merideth told them he had shot down a drone that was flying over his house. The drone was hit in mid-air and crashed in a field near Merideth's home.

Police say the owner of the drone claimed he was flying it to get pictures of a friend's house -- and that the cost of the drone was over $1,800.

Merideth was arrested and charged with first degree criminal mischief and first degree wanton endangerment. He was booked into the Bullitt County Detention Center, and released on Monday.

WDRB News spoke with Merideth Tuesday afternoon, and he gave his side of the story.

"Sunday afternoon, the kids – my girls – were out on the back deck, and the neighbors were out in their yard," Merideth said. "And they come in and said, 'Dad, there’s a drone out here, flying over everybody’s yard.'"

Merideth's neighbors saw it too.

"It was just hovering above our house and it stayed for a few moments and then she finally waved and it took off," said neighbor Kim VanMeter.

VanMeter has a 16-year-old daughter who lays out at their pool. She says a drone hovering with a camera is creepy and weird.

"I just think you should have privacy in your own backyard," she said.


Merideth agrees and said he had to go see for himself.

“Well, I came out and it was down by the neighbor’s house, about 10 feet off the ground, looking under their canopy that they’ve got in their back yard," Merideth said. "I went and got my shotgun and I said, ‘I’m not going to do anything unless it’s directly over my property.’"

That moment soon arrived, he said.

"Within a minute or so, here it came," he said. "It was hovering over top of my property, and I shot it out of the sky."


"I didn't shoot across the road, I didn't shoot across my neighbor's fences, I shot directly into the air," he added.

It wasn't long before the drone's owners appeared.

"Four guys came over to confront me about it, and I happened to be armed, so that changed their minds," Merideth said.

"They asked me, 'Are you the S-O-B that shot my drone?' and I said, 'Yes I am,'" he said. "I had my 40 mm Glock on me and they started toward me and I told them, 'If you cross my sidewalk, there's gonna be another shooting.'"

A short time later, Merideth said the police arrived.

"There were some words exchanged there about my weapon, and I was open carry – it was completely legal," he said. "Long story short, after that, they took me to jail for wanton endangerment first degree and criminal mischief...because I fired the shotgun into the air."

Merideth said he was disappointed with the police response.

"They didn’t confiscate the drone. They gave the drone back to the individuals," he said. "They didn’t take the SIM card out of it…but we’ve got…five houses here that everyone saw it – they saw what happened, including the neighbors that were sitting in their patio when he flew down low enough to see under the patio."

Hillview Police detective Charles McWhirter says you can't fire your gun in the city.

"Well, we do have a city ordinance against discharging firearms in the city, but the officer made an arrest for a Kentucky Revised Statute violation," he said.

According to the Academy of Model Aeronautics safety code, unmanned aircraft like drones may not be flown in a careless or reckless manner and has to be launched at least 100 feet downwind of spectators.

The FAA says drones cannot fly over buildings -- and that shooting them poses a significant safety hazard.

"An unmanned aircraft hit by gunfire could crash, causing damage to persons or property on the ground, or it could collide with other objects in the air," said FAA spokesman Les Dorr.

Merideth said he's offering no apologies for what he did.

"He didn’t just fly over," he said. "If he had been moving and just kept moving, that would have been one thing -- but when he come directly over our heads, and just hovered there, I felt like I had the right."

"You know, when you’re in your own property, within a six-foot privacy fence, you have the expectation of privacy," he said. "We don't know if he was looking at the girls. We don’t know if he was looking for something to steal. To me, it was the same as trespassing."

For now, Merideth says he's planning on pursuing legal action against the owners of the drone.

"We’re not going to let it go," he said. "I believe there are rules that need to be put into place and the situation needs to be addressed because everyone I’ve spoke to, including police, have said they would have done the same thing."

"Because our rights are being trampled daily," he said. "Not on a local level only - but on a state and federal level. We need to have some laws in place to handle these kind of things."
Personally I think the guy had a right to shoot it down.
__________________
The Democrats are not after the truth, they are after the President.
Reply With Quote
The Following 2 Users Say Thank You to CindyB For This Useful Post:
  #2 (permalink)  
Old 08-05-2015, 11:00 AM
Lumara's Avatar
Belly Dance Queen
 
Join Date: Apr 2015
Location: Great Smoky Mountains
Gender: Female
Posts: 2,814
Thanks: 4,081
Thanked 3,433 Times in 1,686 Posts
Default Re: Kentucky Man Arrested For Shooting Down Neighbor's Drone

The mam who shot down the drone did nothing wrong. That drone hovering over his property was an extreme invasion of privacy, but then in Obama's Orwellian vision of Amerika, there is no privacy. To be fair, Bush was just as guilty by signing the misleadingly-named Patriot Act.
__________________
If I had a dollar for every gender, I would have two dollars.
Reply With Quote
The Following 4 Users Say Thank You to Lumara For This Useful Post:
  #3 (permalink)  
Old 08-05-2015, 11:14 AM
Manitou's Avatar
PW Enlightenment
 
Join Date: Mar 2011
Location: Texas
Gender: Male
Posts: 20,909
Thanks: 656
Thanked 6,875 Times in 4,931 Posts
Default Re: Kentucky Man Arrested For Shooting Down Neighbor's Drone

Do people have something against flying their own drone into the path of some other drone hovering on their property? A simple camera would remove doubt as to the GPS of the idiot drone that got tangled in the other drone.
Reply With Quote
  #4 (permalink)  
Old 08-05-2015, 11:32 AM
Dog Man's Avatar
Down Boy!
 
Join Date: May 2013
Location: Southern Nevada
Gender: Male
Posts: 13,340
Thanks: 6,897
Thanked 6,778 Times in 4,597 Posts
Default Re: Kentucky Man Arrested For Shooting Down Neighbor's Drone

The left will always side against the person with the gun.
Reply With Quote
The Following 3 Users Say Thank You to Dog Man For This Useful Post:
  #5 (permalink)  
Old 08-05-2015, 11:52 AM
ShivaTD's Avatar
Progressive Libertarian
 
Join Date: May 2014
Location: Immigrant to Arizona
Gender: Male
Posts: 7,429
Thanks: 1,492
Thanked 2,315 Times in 1,841 Posts
Default Re: Kentucky Man Arrested For Shooting Down Neighbor's Drone

Quote:
Originally Posted by CindyB View Post
Personally I think the guy had a right to shoot it down.
Based upon title granted by the government people do have a statutory right of property to land and can also have statutory title to mineral resources and even water but there is no statutory ownership of the air. The air belongs to everyone and the drone did not violate the statutory ownership of the land that the man had.

There are laws against endangering people and/or property by the flying of an aircraft, manned or unmanned, but there are no laws that prevent a person from flying an aircraft over privately owned land.

Additionally the "natural right of property" of one person does not grant them the right to destroy someone else's private property.

The guy was wrong based upon both statutory law and the "natural law of property" and deserved to be arrested for his criminal behavior.
__________________
"I always had a rule, if a restaurant is dirty on the outside, it's dirty on the inside." Donald Trump

"I always had a rule, if the White House is dirty on the inside, it's dirty on the outside." ShivaTD

Based upon the corruption, brutality, inhumanity, immorality, dishonesty, and incompetence of the Trump administration the White House is the dirtiest house in America and there's no known cleanser that with remove the stains of the Trump Administration.
Reply With Quote
  #6 (permalink)  
Old 08-05-2015, 11:59 AM
ShivaTD's Avatar
Progressive Libertarian
 
Join Date: May 2014
Location: Immigrant to Arizona
Gender: Male
Posts: 7,429
Thanks: 1,492
Thanked 2,315 Times in 1,841 Posts
Default Re: Kentucky Man Arrested For Shooting Down Neighbor's Drone

Quote:
Originally Posted by Dog Man View Post
The left will always side against the person with the gun.
The libertarian will always side with the person who's rights are violated. In this case the destruction of the drone violated the right of property of the owner of the drone while flying the drone over private property didn't violate anyone's rights. No one owns the air.

As far as I'm concerned it doesn't matter if the drone was shot down or knocked out of the sky with a 2x4 it still resulted in the destruction of private property.
__________________
"I always had a rule, if a restaurant is dirty on the outside, it's dirty on the inside." Donald Trump

"I always had a rule, if the White House is dirty on the inside, it's dirty on the outside." ShivaTD

Based upon the corruption, brutality, inhumanity, immorality, dishonesty, and incompetence of the Trump administration the White House is the dirtiest house in America and there's no known cleanser that with remove the stains of the Trump Administration.
Reply With Quote
  #7 (permalink)  
Old 08-05-2015, 12:01 PM
PW Enlightenment
 
Join Date: Apr 2013
Gender: Male
Posts: 12,570
Thanks: 10,268
Thanked 8,444 Times in 5,009 Posts
Default Re: Kentucky Man Arrested For Shooting Down Neighbor's Drone

Quote:
Originally Posted by ShivaTD View Post
Based upon title granted by the government people do have a statutory right of property to land and can also have statutory title to mineral resources and even water but there is no statutory ownership of the air. The air belongs to everyone and the drone did not violate the statutory ownership of the land that the man had.

There are laws against endangering a person with the flying of an aircraft but there are no laws that prevent a person from flying over privately owned land.

Additionally the "right of property" of one person does not grant them the right to destroy someone else's private property.

The guy was wrong under the law and deserved to be arrested for his criminal behavior.
Incorrect and nonsense. You own from the center of the earth to the heavens above. In the interest of providing air travel, this has been since modified, but you still control the area from the center of the earth to a point 400 feet above the highest point on your land. Above that FAA controls (but still does not own) the space and you do not get unlimited usage just because you have a new toy.
Reply With Quote
The Following 4 Users Say Thank You to jimbo For This Useful Post:
  #8 (permalink)  
Old 08-05-2015, 12:04 PM
Dog Man's Avatar
Down Boy!
 
Join Date: May 2013
Location: Southern Nevada
Gender: Male
Posts: 13,340
Thanks: 6,897
Thanked 6,778 Times in 4,597 Posts
Default Re: Kentucky Man Arrested For Shooting Down Neighbor's Drone

Quote:
Originally Posted by ShivaTD View Post
Based upon title granted by the government people do have a statutory right of property to land and can also have statutory title to mineral resources and even water but there is no statutory ownership of the air. The air belongs to everyone and the drone did not violate the statutory ownership of the land that the man had.

There are laws against endangering people and/or property by the flying of an aircraft, manned or unmanned, but there are no laws that prevent a person from flying an aircraft over privately owned land.

Additionally the "natural right of property" of one person does not grant them the right to destroy someone else's private property.

The guy was wrong based upon both statutory law and the "natural law of property" and deserved to be arrested for his criminal behavior.
What if the drone pilot was peeping/filming an underage girl? If she was 18 you probably can't make that case. But I guess you are making the case for video's and cameras in public being OK. Have you informed PP about these findings?
Reply With Quote
The Following User Says Thank You to Dog Man For This Useful Post:
  #9 (permalink)  
Old 08-05-2015, 12:11 PM
Dog Man's Avatar
Down Boy!
 
Join Date: May 2013
Location: Southern Nevada
Gender: Male
Posts: 13,340
Thanks: 6,897
Thanked 6,778 Times in 4,597 Posts
Default Re: Kentucky Man Arrested For Shooting Down Neighbor's Drone

Quote:
Originally Posted by ShivaTD View Post
The libertarian will always side with the person who's rights are violated. In this case the destruction of the drone violated the right of property of the owner of the drone while flying the drone over private property didn't violate anyone's rights. No one owns the air.

As far as I'm concerned it doesn't matter if the drone was shot down or knocked out of the sky with a 2x4 it still resulted in the destruction of private property.
Put up a sign in your yard that says "Drone pilots are authorized to film my underage daughter in her bathing suit while she is in my back yard" Maybe you can get her to pose for them, they may even drop dollar bills from the sky. Teach them girls how to "Work it" it could turn into a profitable business.
Reply With Quote
  #10 (permalink)  
Old 08-05-2015, 12:18 PM
Manitou's Avatar
PW Enlightenment
 
Join Date: Mar 2011
Location: Texas
Gender: Male
Posts: 20,909
Thanks: 656
Thanked 6,875 Times in 4,931 Posts
Default Re: Kentucky Man Arrested For Shooting Down Neighbor's Drone

Quote:
Originally Posted by ShivaTD View Post
The libertarian will always side with the person who's rights are violated. In this case the destruction of the drone violated the right of property of the owner of the drone while flying the drone over private property didn't violate anyone's rights. No one owns the air.
That is horseshlt about a person not owning the air on his property. Go fly your drone over my yard when my young granddaughters are in the pool, and see what else I will own.

Some people here do not strike me as libertarian by any stretch of a wild imagination. I smell totalitarian anal retentive sock puppet most of the time.
Reply With Quote
The Following User Says Thank You to Manitou For This Useful Post:
Reply

Tags
arrested, down, drone, for, kentucky, man, neighbor, shooting

Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On

Forum Jump


All times are GMT -5. The time now is 04:26 AM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.7
Copyright ©2000 - 2020, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.

Content Relevant URLs by vBSEO 3.2.0