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Mexican cartels running pot farms in U.S. national forest

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SEQUOIA NATIONAL FOREST, California (CNN) -- Beyond the towering trees that have stood here for thousands of years, an intense drug war is being waged.

[BIllegal immigrants connected to Mexico's drug cartels are growing hundreds of millions of dollars worth of marijuana in the heart of one of America's national treasures, authorities say. It's a booming business that, federal officials say, feeds Mexico's most violent drug traffickers.][/B]

"These aren't Cheech and Chong plants," said John Walters, director of the National Drug Control Policy. "People who farm now are not doing this for laughs, despite the fact Hollywood still thinks that. They're doing it to make a lot of money."

Walters spoke from a "marijuana garden" tucked deep into the Sequoia National Forest, a two- to four-hour hike from the nearest road, far removed from the giant sequoias the region is best known for.

en thousand marijuana plants, some 5 feet tall, dotted the mountainside's steep terrain amid thick brush, often near streams. This garden's street value is an estimated $40 million, authorities said.

Walters clutched three plants he said were worth $12,000 on the streets.

"This is about serious criminal organizations," Walters said. "They're willing to kill anybody who gets in their way. They're taking money back to those who kill prosecutors, judges and law enforcement."

Over the past eight days, a federal, state and county law enforcement initiative called Operation LOCCUST has eradicated 420,000 marijuana plants here worth more than $1 billion on the street. By comparison, authorities eradicated 330,000 plants over the six-month growing season last month, said Lt. Mike Boudreaux of the Tulare County Sheriff's Department.

Authorities have arrested 38 people and seized 29 automatic weapons, high-powered rifles and other guns, Boudreaux said.

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And you still think all Illegals do work that Americans wont do? Hell why risk transporting the stuff over the border when you can grow it right here and speed delivery to your customers!...
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What pisses me off us that this is a job we can do ourselves just fine. Now they are taking the good job. Lets round em up and throw em out.









And take their weed away.........
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What pisses me off us that this is a job we can do ourselves just fine. Now they are taking the good job. Lets round em up and throw em out.









And take their weed away.........
I've got a better solution: Let's start providing all the immigrants with lighters and rolling paper. As soon as they start using 'em, they'll stop working and the pots farms will quickly die off. See!! It's true what they say, I am a genius!!!
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Granny says if dey gonna act like terrorists - den treat `em like terrorists...

Republicans Propose Bill to Treat Mexican Drug Cartels as 'Terrorist Insurgency'
December 15, 2011 – Calling the situation along the U.S. border a “threat to national security,” a House committee Thursday took up a bill sponsored by Republican congressmen that would treat Mexican drug cartels like terrorists and apply a counterinsurgency strategy to the growing violence along the Southern border.
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Rep. Connie Mack (R-Fla.) introduced H.R. 3401 the “Enhanced Border Security Act” on Nov. 9 to secure the U.S.-Mexico border, stop criminal access to U.S. financial institutions, and work with Mexico to implement counterinsurgency tactics to undermine the control of the drug cartels in the country. The bill would also double the number of Border Patrol agents, and provide additional infrastructure to secure the border, including “tactical double layered fencing.” “A terrorist insurgency is being waged along our Southern border,” said Mack, during the mark up of the bill in the Western Hemisphere subcommittee of the House Foreign Affairs Committee, where he serves as chairman. “The term terrorist insurgency may be strong,” said Mack, who said the cartels operate across Mexico, Central America and in over 1,000 American cities. “But it is based upon unchallenged facts.” “Drug traffickers and criminal organizations have combined efforts to work across borders, unravel government structures, and make large profits from diverse, illegal activity,” he said. “The near-term result: schools, media and candidates all controlled by criminal organizations. In other words, total anarchy.”

Rep. Jean Schmidt (R-Ohio), a supporter of the bill, said the situation is “an issue of national security. “The drug trafficking organization is out of control,” Schmidt said. Rep. Michael McCaul (R-Texas) said the Enhanced Border Security Act “really tells the situation like it is.” “I believe that the drug cartels are acting within the federal definition of terrorism, which basically says to intimidate a civilian population or government by extortion, kidnapping or assassination. That is precisely, precisely what the drug cartels do. They extort,” he said. But Rep. Eliot Engel (D-N.Y.), the ranking Democrat on the subcommittee, disagreed. While he offered his support for the aims of Mack’s bill, Engel argued the Mexican drug cartels are not operating within the legal definition of terrorism as to advance political aims. “I agree with you that Mexicans are terrorized,” said Engel. “If I were living in a place where gun battles were leaving scores of people dead and previously safe streets were now hideouts for thugs and criminals, I would feel a sense of terror, too.” However, Engel said, “There is a difference between acts which can cause terror and terrorist acts.” He said what’s happening in Mexico is “narco-crime” and not terrorism. “If we get the cause of the disease wrong, our treatment will be wrong as well,” he said. “The narco-criminals in Mexico have no political aims, they are brutal outlaws who want money, but they don’t want to throw out the government and take over.”

H.R. 3401 defines terrorist insurgency as, “the protracted use of irregular warfare, including extreme displays of public violence utilized by transnational criminal organizations to influence public opinion and to undermine government control and rule of law in order to increase the control and influence of the organizations.” The National Counterterrorism Center of the United States defines terrorism as “premeditated, politically motivated violence perpetrated against noncombatant targets by subnational groups or clandestine agents.” “They decapitate people on a daily basis. They burn people alive. Throw people in acid baths,” said McCaul. “If that’s not intimidation, if that’s not terrorizing a civilian population, I don’t know what is.” Engel also objected to the bill because he said it would supplant funding for a counterinsurgency strategy from the State Department’s Merida Initiative, a partnership with Mexico designed to to “fight organized crime and associated violence while furthering respect for human rights and the rule of law.”

Since 2008, Congress has allocated $1.6 billion to fund Merida to support Mexico’s implementation of comprehensive justice sector reforms, provide eight Bell helicopters to the Mexican Army/Air Force, three UH-60M Black Hawk helicopters to the Federal Police, and three UH-60M Black Hawk helicopters to the Mexican and provide scanners, X-ray machines, and inspection equipment for Mexican checkpoints and airports, according to the State Department. Despite Merida’s efforts, Rep. Schmidt said -- “I don’t think it is working.” Since 2006, 34,600 people have died as a result of Mexican drug cartel violence, the U.S. government reported in January though the number is now believed to be much higher.

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Romney: Illegal Immigrants Should Have to Leave
December 15, 2011 — Republican presidential hopeful Mitt Romney says he's all for immigration, as long as it's legal and U.S. policies don't reward those who are already here.
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On Thursday night, Romney and his rivals discussed illegal immigration at the GOP debate. Romney says workers who have come to the U.S. illegally would have to leave the country but would be eligible to apply to return as long as they went to the back of the line. "We need an ID card for people who come here legally. People can show that card to EVerify or another system. Let Mastercard or VISA process that and determine it is valid or not. If the employer hires that person, they would have sanctions if that person is not legal. "Ultimately illegal people need to get in line behind everyone else," Romney continued. "I want legal people to come who follow rules not line jumpers."

Newt Gingrich said the nation has to be realistic in confronting the millions of workers without documentation. But Gingrich also said he would cut off funding for so-called sanctuary cities and would drop federal lawsuits against states with tough anti-immigration laws. "People who are here for 20 years are a separate matter," Gingrich said. "On Day One I would drop all lawsuits against states who are trying to enforce immigration policy. I would defund all federal aid to sanctuary cities. I would take away the incentives for breaking the law."

Jon Huntsman suggested that illegal immigration is no longer a problem: "In terms of immigration, no one is coming anymore because there are no jobs and no opportunities," he said. "Let’s not lose sight of the fact that legal immigration is an engine of growth. Half of Fortune 400 companies have been founded by immigrants. We need to remake the way people move back and forth. This is an economic development opportunity."

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ICE came in here about 2 years ago, took them right off the floor at work.Now you really have to show some papers to get a job at any of the places here. That is what was hurting us. dope growers only sell to dopers.
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Mexican drug cartels are infiltrating Texas...

New report shows how Mexican cartels are infiltrating Texas
Wednesday, November 15, 2017 - Mexican cartels smuggle more drugs into the U.S. than any other criminal group, the federal Drug Enforcement Administration said in a new report.
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The 2017 National Drug Threat Assessment released in October lists six cartels as having major influences across the country and Texas. Cartels' influence in Texas is far-reaching, affecting cities hundreds of miles from the state's border with Mexico. San Antonio is the only city in the state with a drug trade controlled by the Cartel Jalisco Nueva Generacion, which deals mostly with methamphetamine, cocaine, heroin and marijuana, according to the DEA,


Members of the Juarez Cartel, Sinaloa Cartel and Cartel Jalisco Nueva Generacion can all be found in this West Texas city, according to the DEA. The Juarez Cartel has the most influence.

The Gulf Cartel has a hold on cities in Texas' tip and coastal bend. McAllen, Brownsville, Corpus Christi, Galveston, Houston and Beaumont are impacted most by the Gulf Cartel which mostly brings marijuana and cocaine into the area, according to the DEA. Drugs smuggled through the Gulf Cartel are mostly brought in through the area between the Rio Grande Valley and South Padre Island. Every week in Houston, a relative of a Gulf Cartel leader receives 100 kilograms of cocaine, according to the DEA.

Moving West, Los Zetas control two cities and the Juarez Cartel has a hold on Alpine, Midland, El Paso and Lubbock. While the arrests of two Los Zetas leaders has weakened the cartel's influence on Eagle Pass and Laredo, its presence is still felt because of members who have assumed control, bringing cocaine, heroin, methamphetamine and marijuana into Texas. The Sinaloa Cartel, formerly run by prison escape artist Joaquin "El Chapo" Guzman," is most found in Dallas, Lubbock and Fort Worth, according to the DEA.

New report shows how Mexican cartels are infiltrating Texas - San Antonio Express-News
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The solution to the problems described in the OP is simple - legalize marijuana.
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