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Poll: Californians Support Sheltering Unaccompanied Immigrant Children

The latest Field Poll finds nearly 60 percent of Californians think the United States should house unaccompanied children who are crossing into the country illegally.

The poll found 58 percent of California voters favored providing shelter and support to the immigrant children, many of whom are from Central America and crossed into the United States by themselves. Thirty-three percent of voters say the children should be deported immediately. A majority of Democrats and those with no party preference support keeping the children in the United States temporarily. Most Republicans surveyed support deporting the children.

Fifty-five percent of voters say President Barrack Obama should take executive action to deal with the children if Congress fails to act. Of those, 74 percent are Democrats and 54 percent have no party preference. Sixty-five percent of Republicans believe the president should not act alone.

http://www.field.com/fieldpollonline...rs/Rls2480.pdf
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Was it this forum a few of the Conservatives were talking about machine gunning anyone trying to cross the border? Including kids. Of course no one wants unaccompanied children wandering about with no food or shelter.
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The latest Field Poll finds nearly 60 percent of Californians think the United States should house unaccompanied children who are crossing into the country illegally.

The poll found 58 percent of California voters favored providing shelter and support to the immigrant children, many of whom are from Central America and crossed into the United States by themselves. Thirty-three percent of voters say the children should be deported immediately. A majority of Democrats and those with no party preference support keeping the children in the United States temporarily. Most Republicans surveyed support deporting the children.

Fifty-five percent of voters say President Barrack Obama should take executive action to deal with the children if Congress fails to act. Of those, 74 percent are Democrats and 54 percent have no party preference. Sixty-five percent of Republicans believe the president should not act alone.

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Was it this forum a few of the Conservatives were talking about machine gunning anyone trying to cross the border? Including kids. Of course no one wants unaccompanied children wandering about with no food or shelter.
Nice to know the majority of Americans are good hearted people. More liberal minded I'm guessing. Ya know, like Jesus.
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I'm trying to think what would happen to the parents in this country if they let their children wander around unaccompanied in another country? Seems to me we have parents who should be facing neglect charges. And, if their parents are already in this country they should be facing abandonment charges seeing as they left their children behind. Of course when the laws mean nothing to people I wouldn't expect much outrage.
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I'm trying to think what would happen to the parents in this country if they let their children wander around unaccompanied in another country? Seems to me we have parents who should be facing neglect charges. And, if their parents are already in this country they should be facing abandonment charges seeing as they left their children behind. Of course when the laws mean nothing to people I wouldn't expect much outrage.
Wonder what you would do to get your children out of a real bad place to a place where people are good and will help. What would you do for your children?
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I was just wondering how much they would contribute to our economy, but hey, it Fox and they are "them" people.
Overall, they will contribute a tremendous amount to our economy, in taxes, home sales, retail sales, jobs, etc. This amount is "chump change" in relation to dollars for America. Florida? Our Republican Governor cut every school district in the state's monies, and budgets and refuses to accept Federal monies from the Department of Education.

Meanwhile, 1/2 of all monies collect from the Florida Lottery goes to education - that's the boast, but the Sunshine State citizen's and teacher's were ripped off. None of the Florida lottery money can be used for equipment like computers, IPODS, printers, etc., or teacher salaries (blame the teacher's union for that). The money can only be used to build new schools, salaries for administrator's, and infrastructure.

Meanwhile Broward County, the 6th largest school district in the nation, routinely cuts teacher's every year. If our idiot Governor accepted the money we are entitled to, from our taxpayer base contributions, our schools here would be in great shape. We have a tremendous number of ESOL Hispanic student's (English Spoken As Other Language). Most schools have only 2-3 teacher's who can teach them appropriately.

But - if they are here, you have to educate them, and once they finish school, they are not going into the low end jobs of the agricultural fields of California, Texas and Florida. Time for that has long passed, the crops will rot in the fields before anybody does those jobs again. The normal trend of immigration in America is to start low, and have upward mobility, just like normal American children do. It may take awhile, but they will end up being an advantage to, not a disadvantage to, America in the long run......STFN
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One of two things needs to happen:

A) we stop them from coming here ILLEGALLY.

or

B) we stop all aid from going there.

When it comes to kids, though, I think money spent to educate is money well spent be they citizen or illegal. And if they are unaccompanied minors that are here and we are educating them, it's our chance to turn them into good citizens.
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Wonder what you would do to get your children out of a real bad place to a place where people are good and will help. What would you do for your children?
Certainly NOT let them run a gauntlet of 1400 miles of drug lords, rapists, war zones, and other unfriendly individuals. If you would let your child do that there is something wrong with you.
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I don't have any witty comment or deep thoughts on this. It's just f*cking stupid and pathetic we're letting this happen.

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Cost of educating new class of illegal immigrant minors estimated at over $760M | Fox News

A new report puts the price of educating the thousands of illegal immigrant children who recently crossed into the U.S. at a whopping $761 million this school year -- as some school systems push for the feds to pick up the tab.

The estimate comes from the Federation for American Immigration Reform (FAIR), which issued a report on the 37,000 “unaccompanied minors” – who mainly are from Central America – after analyzing data from the Department of Health and Human Services and education funding formulas in all 50 states.

The numbers underscore the concerns critics have raised for months about the burden the surge is putting on local school systems and governments.

“We’re not doing American students any favors by dumping in tens of thousands of additional illegal alien children,” FAIR’s Bob Dane told Fox News.

The report breaks down the costs by state. The biggest impact reportedly will be seen in California, Texas, Florida and New York. The Empire State leads the list with a bill of more than $147 million.

Immigrant rights groups, though, say it’s a small price to pay for helping kids in need.

“We’re one of the wealthiest countries in the world,” said Jorge Baron, of the Northwest Immigrant Rights Project. “We should be able to handle this if we focus our energy and some resources and we make sure that kids are treated well, and treated the way we, in America, believe kids should be treated.”

Education funding is always a battle, and the recession took a toll on available dollars. Thirty-five states are still spending less per pupil than they did in 2008, and school infrastructure is suffering. According to the National Center for Education Statistics, the average age of K-12 public school buildings is 44 years old.

More than half are in need of repair, with the total cost of bringing them up to good condition pegged at $4.5 billion.

State taxes and local property taxes pay for nearly 90 percent of the cost of K-12 public education. The federal government pays for the rest.

Against the influx, some jurisdictions are balking at paying their share for the unaccompanied minors that flooded across the border earlier this year.

Miami-Dade County officials asked the federal government to pick up the tab. So did Arizona’s state superintendent of public instruction. In a letter to Education Secretary Arne Duncan, John Huppenthal wrote, “It is unreasonable to ask Arizona schools and Arizona taxpayers to pay for these expenses. These unaccompanied minors in question did not illegally cross in Arizona, but rather they were bussed into our state by the federal government.”

The single largest concentration of unaccompanied minors is in Harris County, Texas. A total of 2,866 immigrants are now living with sponsors and attending public schools, according to government data.

Maria Moreno, principal of Las Americas Newcomers School in Houston, estimates 140 of her 350 students this year are new arrivals from Central America.

“We want what’s best for our kids, and so we need to almost build those relationships, make sure they get the quality of education that we want for all of our kids, so that they can grow up to be great citizens,” Moreno said.

The challenge in Texas and elsewhere is a shortage of qualified bilingual teachers and the higher cost of teaching students who speak no English. According to one report in 2006, it costs at least 30 percent more to teach a non-English speaking student than it does to educate the average English-speaking student.

The unaccompanied minors, meanwhile, are currently getting their day in court. Immigration hearings are taking place and it will take, by many estimates, at least two years to get through the backlog. FAIR is advocating the minors be deported immediately.

“We want to have compassion for illegal alien kids,” Dane said, “but let’s not lose sight of the rule of law and compassion for American students.”

I detest attacking the messenger…BUTT!


“new report puts the price of educating the thousands of illegal immigrant children who recently crossed into the U.S. at a whopping $761 million this school year “

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“The estimate comes from the Federation for American Immigration Reform (FAIR), “

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FAIR Mission Statement

The mission of the Federation for American Immigration Reform (FAIR) is to examine immigration trends and effects, to educate the American people on the impacts of sustained high-volume immigration, and to discern, put forward, and advocate immigration policies that will best serve American environmental, societal, and economic interests today and into the future.



The sad thing about them is they are wrong; when you take a peek at the BIG PICTURE. The Illegals whom pay taxes with fake Social Security numbers? Who benefits from that?


According to a 2005 Social Security estimate, that without all the taxes paid on invalid Social Security numbers, ‘the system’s long-term funding hole over 75 years would be 10 percent deeper.

Seems to me that boomers should have a welcome wagon at the border seeing that they will be hitting SS and Medicare in waves pretty soon.
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Certainly NOT let them run a gauntlet of 1400 miles of drug lords, rapists, war zones, and other unfriendly individuals. If you would let your child do that there is something wrong with you.
Point is where they live is full of drug lords, rapists, war zones, and other unfriendly individuals.
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