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Kinda looks like flip floppin on steroids to me.

< Rep. Richard B. Nugent (R-Fla.), a lawmaker whose three sons have served in the military, made the case of captive soldier Bowe Bergdahl a personal cause. Nugent delivered speeches about Bergdahl on the House floor. He introduced two resolutions affirming that the United States would not abandon him in Afghanistan.>

< What Nugent wanted, he told a crowd at a rally for Bergdahl in February, was for “the United States to do everything possible not to leave any members of the armed forces behind.”>

<In February, The Washington Post reported on the revival of talks to free Bergdahl in exchange for releasing five Taliban commanders held at Guantanamo Bay, Cuba, into the custody of Qatar — the exact outlines of the deal that was eventually announced. When asked at the time by CNN’s Anderson Cooper about reports of such a deal, Sen. John S. McCain (R-Ariz.) said he might support an agreement for Bergdahl that included some kind of prisoner exchange.>

<“Obviously I’d have to know the details, but I would support ways of bringing [Bergdahl] home, and if exchange was one of them I think that would be something I think we should seriously consider,” McCain said.>

<Sen. Tim Scott (R-S.C.), who had earlier supported a resolution calling for the United States to not leave soldiers behind in Iraq and Afghanistan, has criticized the way it was done.>

<“Senator Scott believes that we should leave no man or woman in uniform behind and that the President should follow the law,” a spokesman for Scott wrote Thursday. “These are not contradictory views; they are what both our troops and the American people as a whole deserve.”>

<Just after Bergdahl’s release, Sen. Mike Crapo (R-Idaho) released a statement that said: “Our prayers have been answered and we offer our thanks for the perseverance of the family and the many Idahoans who have kept this vigil. We appreciate the men and women who made this release possible.”>

<Five days later, Crapo expressed doubts about the exchange, telling a local news outlet: “I believe that is a problem . . . that could potentially result in a problem for our national security.”>

The Bergdahl boomerang: Some lawmakers who long urged a rescue now sour on the idea - The Washington Post
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Kinda looks like flip floppin on steroids to me.

< Rep. Richard B. Nugent (R-Fla.), a lawmaker whose three sons have served in the military, made the case of captive soldier Bowe Bergdahl a personal cause. Nugent delivered speeches about Bergdahl on the House floor. He introduced two resolutions affirming that the United States would not abandon him in Afghanistan.>

< What Nugent wanted, he told a crowd at a rally for Bergdahl in February, was for “the United States to do everything possible not to leave any members of the armed forces behind.”>

<In February, The Washington Post reported on the revival of talks to free Bergdahl in exchange for releasing five Taliban commanders held at Guantanamo Bay, Cuba, into the custody of Qatar — the exact outlines of the deal that was eventually announced. When asked at the time by CNN’s Anderson Cooper about reports of such a deal, Sen. John S. McCain (R-Ariz.) said he might support an agreement for Bergdahl that included some kind of prisoner exchange.>

<“Obviously I’d have to know the details, but I would support ways of bringing [Bergdahl] home, and if exchange was one of them I think that would be something I think we should seriously consider,” McCain said.>

<Sen. Tim Scott (R-S.C.), who had earlier supported a resolution calling for the United States to not leave soldiers behind in Iraq and Afghanistan, has criticized the way it was done.>

<“Senator Scott believes that we should leave no man or woman in uniform behind and that the President should follow the law,” a spokesman for Scott wrote Thursday. “These are not contradictory views; they are what both our troops and the American people as a whole deserve.”>

<Just after Bergdahl’s release, Sen. Mike Crapo (R-Idaho) released a statement that said: “Our prayers have been answered and we offer our thanks for the perseverance of the family and the many Idahoans who have kept this vigil. We appreciate the men and women who made this release possible.”>

<Five days later, Crapo expressed doubts about the exchange, telling a local news outlet: “I believe that is a problem . . . that could potentially result in a problem for our national security.”>

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Imagine that. Changing your mind when you find out the guy is a deserter. Whodathunk it.
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It's always the same. If Obama does it the right finds it wrong. No matter what it is.
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It's always the same. If Obama does it the right finds it wrong. No matter what it is.
It's because Obama is a total incompetent. He could screw up a steel ball with a rubber mallet. Instead of getting Congress involved as he was legally obligated to do, he took it upon himself to make this decision. Now he has no one to point the finger at and it has completely messed up his game plan. Even Democrats are pissed off at him over this debacle and the ones running for re-election have just suffered another serious blow to their chances thanks to this bone headed move. Add this to the VA debacle and he has created a double whammy.
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It doesn't look like anyone changed their mind...

I hear a lot of Republicans say "We should do what we can to get Bergdahl back", but I haven't seen any Republican say "Even if we have to do something completely retarded like swapping him for 5 of the highest risk terrorists we have."...

The Left will NEVER admit that the term "WITHIN REASON" would be implied...

They hear a Republican say "Do what we can" and think "EVERYTHING is on table no matter how stupid!!!!"...
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To prove my earlier post, I'll use an analogy...

How many times have you or your spouse/significant other said "I would do anything for you"?...

I bet you've heard that a lot...Or heard others say it...

Out of the 100% of people who has said that, how many have MEANT it?...

Would they kill a guy upon request?

Would they rob a bank if asked?

Would they chop off their arm?

Of course, 99.999% of those people would say "no" to these absurd actions...Making their original comments "I would do anything for you" a bald face lie...

Now imagine some immature twerp pointing and mocking you by saying "See!!!!...You said you'd do ANYTHING for her but you won't even kill a guy!!!...You're a liar!!!!!!!!!!!"...

That's exactly what the Left is sounding like when it comes to this issue...
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It doesn't look like anyone changed their mind...

I hear a lot of Republicans say "We should do what we can to get Bergdahl back", but I haven't seen any Republican say "Even if we have to do something completely retarded like swapping him for 5 of the highest risk terrorists we have."...

The Left will NEVER admit that the term "WITHIN REASON" would be implied...

They hear a Republican say "Do what we can" and think "EVERYTHING is on table no matter how stupid!!!!"...
WTF are you talking about? I showed you McCain doing exactly that. He said what the deal was and said he could go along with it.
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WTF are you talking about? I showed you McCain doing exactly that. He said what the deal was and said he could go along with it.
No h didn't...

I'm quoting the source you used...Read the bolded words...

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McCain said his stance has changed only because the previous proposal was to release five “hard-core” Taliban leaders as a “confidence-building measure.” The current proposal would be an actual exchange of prisoners. “I would be inclined to support such a thing, depending on a lot of details,” he said.

Update: Asked specifically by CNN’s Anderson Cooper about the prospect of a 5-for-1 prisoner exchange, McCain replied, “I would support. Obviously I’d have to know the details, but I would support ways of bringing him home, and if exchange was one of them, I think that would be something I think we should seriously consider.”
He said nothing of the willy-nilly acceptance you WANT to believe...
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No h didn't...

I'm quoting the source you used...Read the bolded words...

He said nothing of the willy-nilly acceptance you WANT to believe...
You bolded the wrong words.

McCain said his stance has changed only because the previous proposal was to release five “hard-core” Taliban leaders as a “confidence-building measure.” The current proposal would be an actual exchange of prisoners. “I would be inclined to support such a thing, depending on a lot of details,” he said.

Update: Asked specifically by CNN’s Anderson Cooper about the prospect of a 5-for-1 prisoner exchange, McCain replied, “I would support. Obviously I’d have to know the details, but I would support ways of bringing him home, and if exchange was one of them, I think that would be something I think we should seriously consider.”

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