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Old 05-31-2014, 12:44 AM
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Here's an aspect that's built right in to the system...

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In 2012, the U.S. Department of Veterans Affairs paid at least $11.4 million to 174 nurses, mental-health specialists, therapists, and other health-care professionals who, instead of caring for veterans, worked full-time doing union business.

The list of these taxpayer-funded union representatives at VA offices around the nation and their salaries was obtained through the Freedom of Information Act by Georgia representative Phil Gingrey’s staff and provided to National Review Online.

“So many health-care providers were on that list — nurses or physical therapists or whatever they may be — when so many veterans are falling through the cracks,” a Gingrey aide tells me. “It’s kind of shocking that these paid employees wouldn't be fully dedicated to patient care.”

In total, the VA spent at least $13.77 million on 251 salaried employees performing full-time union work. Others, who were not included on the list provided by the VA, work part-time for unions at the taxpayer expense. In fiscal year 2011, the latest on record, the VA used 998,483 hours of this “official time,” costing taxpayers more than $42 million.

The newly released records show that in Baltimore, which has the nation’s longest wait times for veterans’ claims, taxpayers covered $372,674 in salary costs in 2012 for a clinical dietetic technician, a patient-services assistant, a health technician, a medical-support assistant, and two nurses to spend all their time at work on union issues and none of it working with veterans.

In Columbia, S.C., the VA pays one health technician a $40,706 salary to work for the American Federation of Government Employees.

...At the Phoenix VA system, where CNN has reported that at least 40 veterans died waiting for appointments, taxpayers cover the costs of a practical nurse (salary: $54,014) and a medical-administration specialist (salary: $59,849), neither of whom work with veterans. There, as many as 1,600 sick veterans faced months-long waits to see a physician, according to CNN.

In Boston, the VA paid a cumulative annual salary of $587,112 in 2012 to six nurses who, instead of treating patients, work for unions.

Employees across the federal government are paid full-time or part-time to perform work for their various unions, but perhaps nowhere is the practice more offensive than the overburdened VA.
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Employer paid union organizers dedicated to doing union work not the employers are common in private industry as well. It is a source of patronage for union paid for by taxpayers and customers. The primary job of these "employees" is to keep the other employees in line so the dues keep flowing to the union bosses and their political pets.
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thats so full of holes. if you are a nurse who belongs to government union you still go to work every day or else you wont get paid. being in a job related organization lke national nurses ass. or a union doesnt mean you give up ur day job. in fact if u do u arent in the union anymore unless you go work for another covered employer.
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thats so full of holes. if you are a nurse who belongs to government union you still go to work every day or else you wont get paid. being in a job related organization lke national nurses ass. or a union doesnt mean you give up ur day job. in fact if u do u arent in the union anymore unless you go work for another covered employer.
actually, it is not uncommon for union representatives; as local reps are elected from the ranks of the local workforce; to be excused from work to perform tasks and duties for the union and still be paid. in the private sector there's usually a limit put on that time, but there can be extenuating circumstances that could extend it.
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the medical staff that cares for vets has no culpability in these lists. it is in administration staff.
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the medical staff that cares for vets has no culpability in these lists. it is in administration staff.
ahem ... are these administrative staffers?

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Do you pay federal taxes salty?
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no I mean they have no culpability in the va scandal ongoing. I have zero problem with them doing union business.
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no I mean they have no culpability in the va scandal ongoing. I have zero problem with them doing union business.
ooops ... you forgot to tell us: do you pay federal taxes?
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actually, it is not uncommon for union representatives; as local reps are elected from the ranks of the local workforce; to be excused from work to perform tasks and duties for the union and still be paid. in the private sector there's usually a limit put on that time, but there can be extenuating circumstances that could extend it.
That's how it works in our union shop...
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ooops ... you forgot to tell us: do you pay federal taxes?
forgot to tell you my tax status?
I did before I retired. yes.
whats urs?
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