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Jesse Jackson apologizes for comments critical of Obama

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The Rev. Jesse Jackson issued an apology to Barack Obama Wednesday for making what he called a "crude and hurtful" remark about the Illinois senator's recent comments directed toward some members of the black community.

According to Jackson, a Fox News microphone picked up comments he meant to deliver privately that seemed to disparage the presumptive Democratic nominee for appearing to lecture the black community on morality.

Jackson didn't elaborate on the context of his remarks, except to say he was trying to explain that Obama was hurting his relationship with black voters by recently conducting "moral" lectures at African-American churches.

Jackson's apology came a few hours before Fox News planned to air the remarks.

Speaking to CNN Wednesday, Jackson said he feels "very distressed" over the comments.

"This is a sound bite in a broader conversation about urban policy and racial disparities. I feel very distressed because I'm supportive of this campaign and with the senator, what he has done and is doing," he said. "I said he comes down as speaking down to black people. The moral message must be a much broader message. What we need really is racial justice and urban policy and jobs and health care. That's a range of issues on the menu.

"Then I said something I regret was crude. It was very private. And very much a sound bite," he also said.

In a statement issued earlier Wednesday to CNN, Jackson said, "For any harm or hurt that this hot mic private conversation may have caused, I apologize. My support for Senator Obama’s campaign is wide, deep and unequivocal. I cherish this redemptive and historical moment."
There goes that mean, evil GOP bringing up race again...

Good thing Obama lied to the public when he said he'd take public finance for his campaign to defend against this republican tactic...
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so what did he say that was so crude?
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so what did he say that was so crude?
Had to wait until the tape became public...

here ya go...


I wanna cut his nuts off...

If that doesn't say "I support you", I don't know know what does...
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well, that certainly says it all LOL

I don't know why Obama is condemned for saying the same things that people idolize Bill Cosby for saying.
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And of course, this will have NO impact on people who criticize Obama and call him "racist" cause of his "association" with Jackson and others.


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well, that certainly says it all LOL
I don't know why Obama is condemned for saying the same things that people idolize Bill Cosby for saying.
Cosby is regularly raked over the coals for his comments by some people.
But Cosby is still right.
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And of course, this will have NO impact on people who criticize Obama and call him "racist" cause of his "association" with Jackson and others.



Cosby is regularly raked over the coals for his comments by some people.
But Cosby is still right.
Sorry, FoundIt,
But I'm going to have to disagree with you on this one...as much as I love and admire Bill Cosby, he may not be totally "right", as Dr. Michael Eric Dyson wrote in his book on the subject, " Is Bill Cosby Right?"....., (excerpt)

" .....Of course, the ink and applause Cosby has won rest largely on a faulty assumption: that he is the first black figure to stare down the “pathology” that plagues poor blacks. But to believe that ignores how figures from black intellectual W.E.B. Du Bois to civil rights leader Jesse Jackson, in varying contexts, with differing results, have spoken controversially about the black poor. Equally intriguing is the leap of faith one must make in granting Cosby revered status as a racial spokesman and critic. He has famously demurred in his duties as a racial representative. He has flatly refused over the years to deal with blackness and color in his comedy. Cosby was defensive, even defiant, in his views, as prickly a racial avoider as one might imagine for a man who traded so brilliantly on dimensions of black culture in his comedy. While Cosby took full advantage of the civil rights struggle, he resolutely denied it a seat at his artistic table. Thus it’s hard to swallow Cosby’s flailing away at youth for neglecting their history, and overlooking the gains paid for by the blood of their ancestors, when he reneged on its service when it beckoned at his door. It is ironic that Cosby has finally answered the call to racial leadership forty years after it might have made a constructive difference. But it is downright tragic that he should use his perch to lob rhetorical bombs at the poor.

For those who overlook the uneven history of black engagement with the race’s social dislocations and moral struggles — and who conveniently ignore Cosby’s Johnny-come-lately standing as a racial critic — Cosby is an ethical pioneer, a racial hero. In this view, Cosby is brave to admit that “lower economic people” are “not parenting” and are failing the civil rights movement by “not holding up their end in this deal.” Single mothers are no longer “embarrassed because they’re pregnant without a husband.” A single father is no longer “considered an embarrassment if he tries to run away from being the father” of his child. And what do we make of their criminal children? Cosby’s “courage” does not fail. “In our own neighborhood, we have men in prison ... I’m talking about these people who cry when their son is standing there in an orange suit. Where were you when he was two? Where were you when he was twelve? Where were you when he was eighteen, and how come you don’t know he had a pistol?” Before he is finished, Cosby beats up on the black poor for their horrible education, their style of dress, the names they give their children, their backward speech and their consumptive habits. As a cruel coda, Cosby even suggests to the black poor that “God is tired of you.”

(From the NPR interview with Dyson:
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Had to wait until the tape became public...

here ya go...

YouTube - Jesse Jackson on Obama: 'Wanna Cut His Nuts Off"

I wanna cut his nuts off...

If that doesn't say "I support you", I don't know know what does...
Of course, it merely indicates that Jackson, like many public figures, is guilty of "poor judgment", jealousy and envy, and illusions of "self-importance". He's made gaffes before, and undoubtedly, will make many more.
He paved the way for Obama, and others, and will remain historically important to the struggle for equality for everyone, regardless of color, religion, or background, in the tradition of MLK....so said Camille Cosby, so said Michelle Obama, and so said Barack Obama, in recent interviews following the faux pas.
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Hey when one guy wants to de-nut another just how much truth is there in saying I'm sorry for saying that? If I was Obama I would wait and behind stage kick the same place that Jackson wanted to cut... Then say accepted.
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Hey when one guy wants to de-nut another just how much truth is there in saying I'm sorry for saying that? If I was Obama I would wait and behind stage kick the same place that Jackson wanted to cut... Then say accepted.
I'm am with you....consequences should accompany stupidity.
Or perhaps he was revealing his "testicular envy"....Obama's cojones outweighing Jackson's, Mc Cain's, and quite a few others. LOL.

Another thing would be, that probably due to the backlash he was compelled to issue a public apology, and I admire the fact that he did so, in quick fashion, and was not attempting to spin or to duck, as we have seen done by such notables as Dubya, Don Imus, Rush Limbaugh, Phil Gramm.
When you make a mistake (or better yet, when you get caught, red-handed), man up, and apologize and move on...instead of trying to explain your way out of it.

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Default Re: Jesse Jackson apologizes for comments critical of Obama

They must. I was thinking last night. I do that sometimes. lol

Obama made no real mark yet is chosen for this presidential bid. (Not on his on design as that is how politics works) He is a senator who is in his first term! Not a thing on his record to brag about.

So beside being a charmer and drawing people to the game, what is it he done? Or will do? Who does hold his IOU card for this quick rise. Its the men/women in the back ground that worry me. The ones none of us ever see, but have direct connections to the elite blue bloods that think they were born here to lead America... You know the guys we don't hear about much any more. But did in the mid 1800's or very early 1900's.

That is what I was thinking about.
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