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Hey when one guy wants to de-nut another just how much truth is there in saying I'm sorry for saying that? If I was Obama I would wait and behind stage kick the same place that Jackson wanted to cut... Then say accepted.
You do see the pattern here. Anytime someone close to the Obama camp are caught making comments like this (a gaffe) then all is forgiven with an apology. Very hypocritical, and by accepting the apology Obama is just as much of a hypocryte.

It's called karma. It's time for Obama to get thrown under the same bus he's been throwing everyone else.
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You do see the pattern here. Anytime someone close to the Obama camp are caught making comments like this (a gaffe) then all is forgiven with an apology. Very hypocritical, and by accepting the apology Obama is just as much of a hypocryte.

It's called karma. It's time for Obama to get thrown under the same bus he's been throwing everyone else.
What pattern? Jackson is nowhere near "close to the Obama camp" as much as Hagee is close to the McCain camp. Stop inventing stuff.
Obama has nothing in common with Jackson other than they are both black, perceived as leaders and both ran (or are running) for the presidency. Period.

Hell, the other side, never apologizes for anything.
And the word is spelled , "hypocrite". Stop being lazy and pick up a dictionary.
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What pattern? Jackson is nowhere near "close to the Obama camp" as much as Hagee is close to the McCain camp. Stop inventing stuff.
Obama has nothing in common with Jackson other than they are both black, perceived as leaders and both ran (or are running) for the presidency. Period.
Obama and Jackson have more in common than you may want to know:
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As a state senator from the South Side, Barack Obama once arranged for a $200,000 state grant to jump-start an urban venture capital fund for a non-profit group run by Rev. Jesse Jackson.
Obama has long backed faith charities -- chicagotribune.com
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Civil rights leader Jesse Jackson said Thursday he's backing Democrat Barack Obama in his presidential bid, giving his support to a new generation of black politicians.

“He has my vote,” the Rev. Jackson told The Associated Press in a telephone interview.

Jesse Jackson Endorses Barack Obama, Civil Rights Leader Says Democratic Candidate For President Has His Vote - CBS News
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Jesse Jackson praised Barack Obama's key victory last night as a "transformational moment" in American history, Reuters reports. "We knew this breakthrough was possible—we didn't know when or who," said the two-time presidential candidate, emphasizing the remarkable 53-year journey of African-Americans from a Mississippi lynching in 1955 to today.
Jesse Jackson Hails Obama Victory - Newser
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Jesse Jackson vs Barack Obama; Neither Will Wake Up at the White House But Who Will Get Close Enough to Smell the Coffee
BACKGROUND AND UPBRINGING
Jesse Jackson was born in South Carolina to a single mother who became pregnant with him when she was only 15 years old. His real father was a talented boxer and a well-known personality in the black community. The only problem was that he was married to another woman when Helen Burns (Jesse's mum) became pregnant by him.

Noah Robinson, Jesse's father did not get involved in his son's life, but when his mother later married when he was a toddler, he was adopted by Charles Jackson who gave him his name.

Barack Obama was born in Honolulu to a Kenyan father and a white American mother, both of whom attended University; his father going on to do a Ph.D. Obama moved to Indonesia as a young boy after his parents divorced and his mother remarried, but he soon returned to Honolulu to live with his mother's middle class family.

SCHOOLING AND FURTHUR EDUCATION
Jesse Jackson attended a black high school, where he was was an extremely bright and talented baseball player. After he graduated college, he studied to become a minister (in 1990 he was awarded an honorary theological doctorate), but gave that up in order to focus on the civil rights movement.

Barack Obama finished high school and went on to college to gain his B.A degree. He subsequently worked steadily with the community as organiser, and as a director of developing communities projects among other things.After a few years, he went back to school to study law and also became a lecturer in the Chicago School of Law.

FAMILY LIFE
Jesse Jackson was married to Jacqueline Brown and had 3 sons and 2 daughters with her. He later had an affair with Karin Stanford by whom he had another daughter.

Barack Obama met his future wife Michelle Robinson when he was attached to a Chicago Law firm. They became engaged and married a year later, they have 2 daughters.

THEIR POLITICS
Jesse Jackson negotiated the release of 22 Americans being held in Cuba by Fidel Castro, this is one of the most memorable events he has championed.

He was immensely popular in Alabama, Georgia and Louisana and was for a short period considered a front runner.

Jackson was considered to be liberal and wanted to create an American Parliament of various minority groups including the working class. He advocated that the rich should be taxed differently from the poor, and that the money gained from them be used to finance social welfare programmes. Disarmament negotiations was also high up on his list of priorities.

Barack Obama has hired high ranking veterans to help him in his bid for presidency. His campaign raised a whopping $58million US dollars during the first half of 2007, this was more than any other candidate had ever raised before, within the same time period.

Obama believes in a free market and wants to lessen the gap between the rich and the poor. High up on his list for repair is the American health system and early childhood education. He claims to have an opposition to "dumb wars"

THE COLOUR CODE
These men have fought hard to become President of the USA. Jackson on one hand was far too black for the white (or black) middle class of America to want him for their President. There were certain questionable aspects of his life which did not fit into the mold of 'The American President.'

Obama on the other hand, is squeaky clean. But there are racists on both sides of the colour coin. For the people who don't care about his colour but like his policies, he has a fighting chance. However, for the white racists he is a "black" not a mixed race man. They have wiped his mother's heritage clean from his blood and could never see him as half white. He has been tainted with the blood of a black father, thus spoilt.

For the racists on the darker side of the coin, Obama is just not black enough. By evidence of mere reason, if he is only half black, then he is also half white.

Jesse Jackson, never had a real chance. The question now is, are there enough people standing in the middle who see Obama's policies before the milk chocolate colour of his skin, and are those policies what America needs at this time?

America does not need a non-white President or a female President per-say. America needs a President who will bring it peace, guide the nation, and make sure that its people's needs are met.

After all, the United Kingdom and America are friends, and it is said, "Birds of a Feather Flock Together." If the next American President feels that it is his/her divine right to invade foreign lands, my British son could be fighting on his/her behalf.
Jesse Jackson vs Barack Obama; Neither Will Wake Up at the White House But Who Will Get Close Enough to Smell the Coffee
I imagine you supported Jesse Jackson during his short runs at the Precidency. And now you support Obama even though you have already agreed that Obama may not be the best choice.

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Hell, the other side, never apologizes for anything.
And the word is spelled , "hypocrite". Stop being lazy and pick up a dictionary.
Some people boost their own self confidence by putting others down. Everything comes out in the wash...
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I imagine you supported Jesse Jackson during his short runs at the Precidency. And now you support Obama even though you have already agreed that Obama may not be the best choice.

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Some people boost their own self confidence by putting others down. Everything comes out in the wash...
My self confidence, as you should know by now, is never in jeopardy.
But you continue to show yourself "the fool", by making elementary spelling mistakes...when a dictionary can't be that far from your hand. It renders your arguments "moot"....you can't be taken seriously if you constantly indicate your intelligence is suspect.
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You know, I never really cared much for Jesse Jackson and Al Sharpton and the whole race baiter crowd. In fact, at times my disgust for race baiters makes me so contrary that I like to throw racial slurs, not because of any racism on my part, but really just to spite them and take the teeth out of their cries of racism. (I actually like to do that to ALL race baiters I meet. It's a rollicking good time to see them start foaming at the mouth and lose all coherence.)

But this time, I think this is blown WAAAAAAY out of proportion. First of all, it was a private moment and not meant to be on camera. If he was comfortable speaking so candidly with the guy he was interacting with, more power to him. But to take something that was obviously meant to be a private conversation and throw it up on national television to attack the man...that's just petty and a dishonest coloration of his public policy.

However, considering how many times he's demanded white people apologize to black people, I find it funny he is on the receiving end of his own game. But that's just cuz I don't like him. He's about a half a step above Sharpton who happens to be lower than whale shit on the ocean floor.
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My self confidence, as you should know by now, is never in jeopardy.
But you continue to show yourself "the fool", by making elementary spelling mistakes...when a dictionary can't be that far from your hand. It renders your arguments "moot"....you can't be taken seriously if you constantly indicate your intelligence is suspect.
P.S. Your motivation is to link Obama's positives to Jackson's negatives, thereby rendering him, deficient. No cigar. No intelligent person would deduce something amiss, by similarities....6 degrees of separation is a game.
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My self confidence, as you should know by now, is never in jeopardy.
But you continue to show yourself "the fool", by making elementary spelling mistakes...when a dictionary can't be that far from your hand. It renders your arguments "moot"....you can't be taken seriously if you constantly indicate your intelligence is suspect.
I often find, on internet forums, that when one defaults to correcting typos and grammar, it is an indication that all rational argument is absent and the grammar nazi simply defaults to hysterical attack.

Just proves that some people are like slinkies. They aren't really good for anything but they sure make you smile when you push them down the stairs.
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Just proves that some people are like slinkies. They aren't really good for anything but they sure make you smile when you push them down the stairs.
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What pattern? Jackson is nowhere near "close to the Obama camp" as much as Hagee is close to the McCain camp. Stop inventing stuff.
Obama has nothing in common with Jackson other than they are both black, perceived as leaders and both ran (or are running) for the presidency. Period.

Hell, the other side, never apologizes for anything.
And the word is spelled , "hypocrite". Stop being lazy and pick up a dictionary.
Wrong.. Jackson has been promoting Obama for a long time. Don't be so blinded by your desires. Truth always is the best course to follow and understand. That doesn't mean that you lose your desire for him to become president. Aron, vote for him but don't twist anything so we might follow your lead.
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Aron, vote for him but don't twist anything so we might follow your lead.
The only people I know of that can achieve those kinds are contortions are a set of Romanian twins in Cirque De Soleil.
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