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Originally Posted by fxashun
Okay. And there is more risk in car ownership. I think your risk comparison is skewed.
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I would venture that the "risk comparison" should work more on a "per use" basis.
People don't use guns as often as they use cars.
A car owner will probably use his car about on a daily basis.
Use of a gun in self-defense? Especially for somebody not trained? Much riskier if they had to use it anywhere near that often.
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In this case carrying isn't at issue since we are protect OUR property of our neighbors.
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I was primarily speaking hypothetically of a proposal.
But you're right that my opinion for insurance wouldn't be applied to that.
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Originally Posted by fxashun
And we have specific incidences where deadly force is authorized. You can't just shoot your gun in public for no reason.
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It works for cars.
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You're making your car analogy work rather well...
(no sarcasm)
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And I'm pointing out that there are other laws framing that law that limit it.
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In some of these hypothetical cases, yes.
In others, no.
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And I suspect that even in those states, many prosecutors would probably elect not to press charges. It's his call.
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Prosecutors decision, and his decision would depend upon the circumstances...
Take the Texas example for instance. It looks like Horn's actions were CLEARLY protected by the laws on the books (I think in both our opinions), yet the Texas prosecutor decided to take it to trial anyways.
If the prosecutor took it to trial in the state where it was ACTUALLY legal, is it that much of a stretch to see it taken to trial in a state where it wasn't legal?
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Originally Posted by fxashun
Are you talking about colleges or high school? I doubt I'd agree with letting high school students carry. College students maybe. High school teachers maybe.
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Both regarding examples, but your clarification is important for actual differentiation on where the EXISTING standards lie.
We agree high school students shouldn't carry.
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No it's not. Drugs are not guns. Another questionable comparison.
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It's an analogy...
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Well why did you move to schools? That's another whole issue.
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Cause I think we both made ourselves clear ON topic, and then when people started discussing more generic I did as well.
Plus, as I pointed out, gun advocates have used the school shootings in their arguments for why guns should be carried, ergo I thought it worthy to explore the ramifications of such an idea.