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Old 02-08-2014, 12:15 PM
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Oh, So someone says so so it's true? Where do you see some big anti Christie attitude on the left. It is obvious among tea party types. Even other Republicans are avoiding him.
Have you EVER read an article someone puts up or simply decide what the facts are based on whatever you feel at the moment?...

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The Democratic National Committee alone has issued 58 emails to the news media about the Christie administration’s role in several alleged acts of political revenge, from Hoboken to Jersey City to Fort Lee. When former Senator Scott Brown, who may run for Senate in New Hampshire, defended Mr. Christie on television, the Democratic Senatorial Campaign Committee quickly ridiculed him as “defender in chief of scandal-ridden Chris Christie.” American Bridge, a Democratic research group, has issued 169 requests for internal documents from the Christie administration.
According to your "Oh this isn't true" logic, the Democratic National Committee did NOT issue 58 emails ...

...The Democratic Senatorial Campaign Committee did NOT go after Scott Brown with a Christie reference...

...American Bridge did NOT issue 169 requests for internal documents...

None of this happened...because Mikeyy said so...
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Have you EVER read an article someone puts up or simply decide what the facts are based on whatever you feel at the moment?...

According to your "Oh this isn't true" logic, the Democratic National Committee did NOT issue 58 emails ...

...The Democratic Senatorial Campaign Committee did NOT go after Scott Brown with a Christie reference...

...American Bridge did NOT issue 169 requests for internal documents...

None of this happened...because Mikeyy said so...
I guess now the New York Times has to be put into the same category as the liberals put Fox News. They don't believe anything from Fox News if it conflicts with their position and now, apparently, they don't believe anything from the New York Times either.
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Really?...
You must be new to this forum...and America...
Are you just NOT remembering the outrage about Mitch McConnell saying that the Republicans' goal is to make Obama a one-term president?...
Apples and Oranges. And since you're already making up claims as to what Dems think, I know my breath is wasted on you...

What you quote is how Republicans demonstrated they never had any intention for working with Obama after he was elected.

Apples to Apples would be if Repubs had taken aggressive pot shots at Obama before he had been elected, a couple years before the election.

Oranges to Oranges would be if Dems had openly stated they would refuse to work with Christie after he had been elected president.
And the really frustrating problem with this aspect is that Repubs have made it a talking point to complain that Obama won't work with them, AFTER they have openly stated that they are refusing to work with Obama...


Just out of curiosity, if these Christie scandals had come out with Obama's name instead of Christie's name, would you not be running them up the flag pole and renting spotlights to throw on them?
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Apples and Oranges. And since you're already making up claims as to what Dems think, I know my breath is wasted on you...

What you quote is how Republicans demonstrated they never had any intention for working with Obama after he was elected.

Apples to Apples would be if Repubs had taken aggressive pot shots at Obama before he had been elected, a couple years before the election.
Ummm...

ONE-TERM president...

That means they were talking about it 4 years BEFORE the next election...
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Ummm...
ONE-TERM president...
That means they were talking about it 4 years BEFORE the next election...

You seriously think the fact that they wanted Obama to have only one term was the aspect that Dems were having a problem with???


It's how they talked about achieving it that was the problem. By taking a new tactic of obstructing anything Obama did in an unprecedented degree.
THAT was the problem.
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If the dems try to halt Christies the republicans will probably help cause he's a RINO.
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If the dems try to halt Christies the republicans will probably help cause he's a RINO.
I think this story is to get the right to back him. Ya know, If them dems hate him we should love him.
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If the dems try to halt Christies the republicans will probably help cause he's a RINO.
Consider the history of McCain and his approach for 2008.

McCain was also somebody considered a RINO.
But, if you compare his pre-2008 actions to his 2008 campaign, you can see an obvious shift towards the right in his campaign and policies.
It wasn't a shift all the way to the hard right, but enough to draw in more votes from the right.

One of the eye-opening moments for me with Jon Stewart was his reaction to the 2008 McCain. Stewart turned on McCain. Hard.
I think it's entirely possible McCain may never be back on Stewart's show and I don't blame McCain.

I guess my point is that even some people who are RINOs can change their political position for a presidential campaign. McCain had some preceding campaigns where I think his position was ignored for other candidates, and I think he learned a lesson and thus the 2008 transition.

The right doesn't seem to pragmatically understand that they lose percentage points for success when they go hard right. Somebody more in the middle will be more likely to win the vote. Being enamored with all the further right 2008 candidates who never had any real hope of winning? It's pointless.
Like dreaming of a porsche when you can only afford a Toyota.

But for the left, understanding what position may take the election and Christie's popularity? Pragmatically the reaction by some to Christie doesn't surprise me.
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Default Re: Democrats Grab for a Chance to Halt Christie’s Rise

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Have you EVER read an article someone puts up or simply decide what the facts are based on whatever you feel at the moment?...

According to your "Oh this isn't true" logic, the Democratic National Committee did NOT issue 58 emails ...

...The Democratic Senatorial Campaign Committee did NOT go after Scott Brown with a Christie reference...

...American Bridge did NOT issue 169 requests for internal documents...

None of this happened...because Mikeyy said so...
what do you expect? With Daryl Issa run amok at pretend scandals all over the place.
This is a very old entrenched system. The Democrats there smelled blood in the water and went after it in droves.
Wanna play dirty? Better not live in a glass house.
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