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WASHINGTON (AP) — The Supreme Court on Wednesday outlawed executions of people convicted of raping a child. In a 5-4 vote, the court said the Louisiana law allowing the death penalty to be imposed in such cases violates the Constitution's ban on cruel and unusual punishment. The Associated Press: Court rejects death penalty for raping children I'm with Alito. I think the impact to a child of being a victim of rape is huge and very much comparable to murder. I remember hearing (rumor) that in law-suit cases, a "dead" victim was often worth le$$ than a live one. I think the underlying societal mechanism demonstrates how serious living through a tragedy can be very comparable to "just" dying because of it. I think the court got this one wrong. |
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I think they crossed the line there too. But on a separate note, it didn't take long before people pinged the candidates... Asked about today's US Supreme Court ruling that sentencing someone to death for raping a child is unconstitutional, Obama said he disagreed with such a broad ban.Obama backs death for child rapists - 2008 Presidential Campaign Blog - Political Intelligence - Boston.com |
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I'll allow myself to see a little grey here...
Still... Anyone who rapes a child under 12 years of age should be stoned, drawn, quartered, and crucified. I have no sympathies whatsoever for those who would sexually abuse children. None. Children are the one sacred, holy thing in this world we SHOULD all be able to agree upon. A child should never be allowed to become a victim to deviant sexual predators, regardless of their 'status'.
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Some of you may have read before that there is a person in my life who was raped at the age of five. While that crime went unreported for many years because of the fear and manipulation that took place (as it does with most victims of friends/family), let me relate this person's life after the rape.
Insecurity, life threatening obesity, bipolar disorder, paranoid schizophrenia accompanied by visual and auditory hallucinations, obsessive compulsions, attempted suicide. Those are words on paper. But I knew this person as a bright and charming playmate before the occurrence. It was like a light dimmed and went out when this thing happened. And I didn't even know about it till years later. A lot of people started to wonder if there had been an illness that did something to this child's brain. Like when some children used to be affected by the measles or a bad ear infection and it left them permanently disabled. With today's modern technology, there would have been better tests to determine the cause. The suicide attempt is what brought out the psychologically aching and physically gruesome tale of the first rape at 5 and another (same perpetrator) at 8 yrs old. Besides the psychological problems there are residual physical problems as well. What do you think my opinion of this court decision is? That person took the life and future of my playmate and I still blame myself that I could have loved a friend so well and not known. I am admittedly just weary of the back breaking over consideration that's been given to -not the accused-but the tried and guilty in our country, when the victims have to be dead or robbed of a great deal of money before they are worthy enough to have equal justice under the law. The fact these kids don't die is a testament to their spirit and willpower in the face of the most awful evil anyone can imagine.
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These are non-Americans that have never been on American soil in their life, yet 5 people on a court believe they have the same rights as your average Joe... ![]()
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![]() Furthermore, I notice you refer to them as "terrorists at Gitmo". Who determined they are terrorists? Where is the evidence and the proof? I am not saying they are not, but it has not been proven to me that they are (individually). That is what a civil trial is for (or a military tribunal), to prove "beyond a reasonable doubt" that a person deserves to be kept locked up for a determined amount of time. Have you noticed that some American soldiers in Iraq have committed barbaric crimes, yet they are still sent here to be accountable for their actions, to have a trial and be judged by their peers? How would you feel if the Iraqi government (or any other for that matter) indiscriminately took them based on their intelligence, locked them in a cell, and denied them the basic rights of a trial? I am sure you'd be outraged, because they're American, oh brother, I would be more worried about what it is the govenrment wants to hide by denying them these basic rights... perhaps that their intelligence in detaining some of these men was as flawed as the intelligence they worked on to invade Iraq in the first place? |
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I believe I didn't...In fact, I KNOW I didn't... ![]()
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Did I say that "only Americans have rights" as you claimed I said in your post?... Nope... Did I say that "these people are not American (so) they have no rights" as you insinuated?... Nope... All I said was that they shouldn't have the SAME rights... If you disagree with that, then you are basically saying the US Constitution covers every single person in the world in the same manner... ![]()
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