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Read my previous post.
I don't have to...I know your position from other postings...and I absolutely disagree. You mess with children, you die. No questions asked. End of subject.
How you , as a parent, can think otherwise is unconscionable.
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I don't have to...I know your position from other postings...and I absolutely disagree. You mess with children, you die. No questions asked. End of subject.
How you , as a parent, can think otherwise is unconscionable.
Because I don't think a person should lose their life unless they take one. And we already have people taking lives that aren't killed, so we shouldn't give another option for certain states to impose that ultimate penalty until we have uniformity with the punishments we already have.
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Because I don't think a person should lose their life unless they take one. And we already have people taking lives that aren't killed, so we shouldn't give another option for certain states to impose that ultimate penalty until we have uniformity with the punishments we already have.
and I believe otherwise....children who are molested and rape, aren't just violated physically, but psychologically, which may impair them or decrease their quality of life, for the rest of their lives....essentially, "taking their life".
I think it is the noblest reason for the death penalty....the rape of a child.
I'll vote for it, in a new york minute.
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and I believe otherwise....children who are molested and rape, aren't just violated physically, but psychologically, which may impair them or decrease their quality of life, for the rest of their lives....essentially, "taking their life".
I think it is the noblest reason for the death penalty....the rape of a child.
I'll vote for it, in a new york minute.
And I don't think people should lose their lives for something that "may" cause irreparable harm. It "may" not. Many kids have been violated and just "got over it". And while that may be a callous view, so is condemning a man to death.
Murder is a bit more final.
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And I don't think people should lose their lives for something that "may" cause irreparable harm. It "may" not. Many kids have been violated and just "got over it". And while that may be a callous view, so is condemning a man to death.
Murder is a bit more final.
Total BS. Just as homosexuality is another's reality, which you summarily dismiss as "deviant", by the same token, it would be supreme arrogance on your part to speculate on the damage to a child's psyche, or the lack, thereof, following horrific rape. If there ever was justification for the death penalty, I repeat, this is it. End of line.
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And I don't think people should lose their lives for something that "may" cause irreparable harm. It "may" not. Many kids have been violated and just "got over it". And while that may be a callous view, so is condemning a man to death.
Murder is a bit more final.
IN the case in question, how is she going to get over being ripped from A__hole to Appetite?
He was found guilty. There is no question it did her irreparable harm. So that argument just lost some steam.
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The fact is that rape of a child does cause irreparable damage to the child psychologically, and may have repercussions for the rest of the child's life. So, at its most base level, child rape is analogous to murder in some ways, in that once you murder somebody, you can't bring them back to life. Similarly, when you rape someone, and in this case raping a child is so much more heinous than an adult man or woman, no amount of counselling or time will entirely erase the horrific nature of such a crime.

So I think that prosecutors should be allowed to exercise discretion on whether the rape of a child deserves the death penalty. I disagree with the court completely outlawing the imposition of the death penalty on child rapists.
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The fact is that rape of a child does cause irreparable damage to the child psychologically, and may have repercussions for the rest of the child's life. So, at its most base level, child rape is analogous to murder in some ways, in that once you murder somebody, you can't bring them back to life. Similarly, when you rape someone, and in this case raping a child is so much more heinous than an adult man or woman, no amount of counselling or time will entirely erase the horrific nature of such a crime.
Although I agree with that statement, so does divorce, the child's appearance or the way he/she was dressed, coke-bottle glasses, and being born named "Michael Hunt"...

Rape is in a different catagory...It's MUCH more than saying "cause irreparable damage to the child psychologically, and may have repercussions for the rest of the child's life...
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I guess I just don't get it.

Somebody supports being able to shoot another person in the back over THEFT.
(Property can be insured, right?)
But raping a kid, physically damaging the kid as previously described, and more than likely scarring the kid for life...
THAT is an issue that isn't worthy of death???

Maybe next time, the thieves can just rape the family instead of stealing stuff...

I have bantered around an idea before, and maybe it's time to bring it up again.
Suppose the victim is still suffering from the event after ten years...
Can we THEN decide that it warrants killing the molestor?
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Total BS. Just as homosexuality is another's reality, which you summarily dismiss as "deviant", by the same token, it would be supreme arrogance on your part to speculate on the damage to a child's psyche, or the lack, thereof, following horrific rape. If there ever was justification for the death penalty, I repeat, this is it. End of line.
And just as some societies hang men simply for being gay, we all have differing opinions of what it takes to justify a society taking a life. I mean if you want to bring THAT subject here.
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