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Should state help poor buy clean cars?
Subsidies proposed as a way to clean air
By Steven Greenhut3:58 p.m.Nov. 29, 2013Updated6:33 a.m.Dec. 2, 2013


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Angie Vorhies leaves her Nissan Leaf electric vehicle charging station as she heads for shopping at a mall Wednesday, Nov. 13, 2013, in San Diego. (AP Photo/Lenny Ignelzi) Angie Vorhies leaves her Nissan Leaf electric vehicle charging station as she heads for shopping at a mall Wednesday, Nov. 13, 2013, in San Diego. (AP Photo/Lenny Ignelzi) The Associated Press




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SACRAMENTO — One longtime critic of federal transportation spending once concluded that it would be less expensive for the government to buy every new transit rider a Jaguar XJ8 than it would be to build certain new rail systems. Unfortunately, California officials may not have realized that the idea of buying people new cars wasn’t a serious proposal as much as a way to illustrate a point about excessive spending.

The California Air Resources Board is now embarking on a program that would help poor people buy energy-efficient vehicles. In one scenario posed by the agency, a “voucher” might even pay the full price for a Nissan Leaf, an electric car with an MSRP above $21,000, or for used cars with lower price tags.

In a staff report released on Nov. 19, the agency analyzes its Enhanced Fleet Modernization Program authorized in 2007. Funded by a $1 surcharge on vehicle registrations, the $30-million-a-year program is essentially a “cash for clunkers” deal. It provides motorists with $1,000 to $1,500 to retire their high-polluting vehicles.

The board also sponsors a pilot program that provides up to $4,000 for certain motorists to ditch their old cars and buy late-model, cleaner vehicles. The board admits that the current program is “overly complicated” and “highly bureaucratic,” so it’s looking for ways to streamline and expand it so that more people take advantage of the assistance.

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Clean cars should have already been ruled the only cars that can be manufactured or sold in this country new.
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Why not supply cars? We are already giving them food stamps, welfare, cell phones and health insurance.
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Clean cars should have already been ruled the only cars that can be manufactured or sold in this country new.
If only we had clean cars, huh?
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Hell no. When it comes to gov't providing thing for people two questions should be asked:

Will this person die without ________?
If the answer is no, gov't is out. If the answer is yes, next question.

Is this person capable of providing _________ on their own?
If the answer is yes, gov't is out. If the answer is no, then the gov't should help.
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Clean cars should have already been ruled the only cars that can be manufactured or sold in this country new.
What would be your definition of a "clean car"?
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how "Clean" is an Electric Car when you consider its Components(HazMat-Battery),Manufacture,and use of Electric Power coming most likely from Diesel-or Coal-fired Power-plants?
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No. When their car dies, they can go get a new one by themselves. Isn't that what most Americans do? I don't know about you, but I have seen far too many people who pay with EBTs for food and other necessities driving around in a new fancy car. They are supposed to be close to poverty ridden to receive benefits, but they are getting cash from somewhere to buy those cars. Unreported income most likely. While we the taxpayers support their lifestyle. Absolutely NOT! It time that the states and feds start cracking down on the fraud ridden entitlement system.
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If their car needs to be washed, they should wash it, not get a new one...


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If only we had clean cars, huh?
We've known for many years the devastation on our air quality and seen the rise of bronchial and lung related disease especially in kids even though clean air acts have been put in across the states and smoking is down.
I think the clean air act is a joke. If you're going to keep me from smoking in public outside in California and Boise and other places, then clean up your dang vehicle emissions! Californians complain about diesel trucks but have way more cars and that is their problem. Other cities with a big concentrated population are the same way.
we dont have to give them away just phase out the old ones let some keep classic cars for shows and such and over a period of years only have clean.
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