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Old 12-04-2013, 08:57 PM
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It is bizarre to me how some conservatives show such little concern against the risk of gun violence.
Let me repeat something you may have missed...
The department shall, upon notification by a law enforcement agency, a court, or the Florida Department of Law Enforcement and subsequent written verification, suspend a license or the processing of an application for a license if the licensee or applicant is arrested or formally charged with a crime that would disqualify such person from having a license under this section, until final disposition of the case.
It's not a situation of "wait and see if he's convicted".
With the arrest made, his license is forfeit until the case is resolved.
Otherwise you run into situations where a man beats his wife, gets out of jail on bail, and then goes and gets his gun to finish the job...


The definition of assault weapon varies and the AR15 easily fits under some definitions.


How do you know? Were you there?
It boggles my mind how some conservatives jump to the defense.


I'm not "trying to convict the man before he even goes to court".
"Hounding him"?

Geezus. You just (falsely) accused me of convicting him before the trial...
... but in the same post you commit the opposing offense by insisting he's innocent before the trial...


I don't understand Zimmerman supporters.
For those who think he was not guilty for Trayvon's death, that's one thing.
But for some they've turned it into a personal anti-vendetta to turn a blind eye to Zimmerman's misdeeds.

Take these guys for example:
Gun Advocacy Group Sends Zimmerman $12,000 To Buy Guns | ThinkProgress
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And this is on top of the windfall he got from the donations during the Zimmerman / Martin trial. Donations that well exceeded his trial costs...


Seriously. What's next? People offering him to take their daughters' virginity?
Ummm... opposing offense? I see you do not know what the presumption of innocence is.....
Just so you know, he is innocent until proven guilty. Try reading the bill of rights.
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Ummm... opposing offense? I see you do not know what the presumption of innocence is.....
Just so you know, he is innocent until proven guilty. Try reading the bill of rights.
That's the legal position, yes.

But tell me. What was Trayvon convicted of?
Are you willing to address all the right-wingers who bashed on Trayvon with the same insistence that he was innocent?
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Thought the subject of the thread was Zimmerman, but then, it's not unusual to see someone found in error to a point try to divert.
Since you insist, what exactly was martin charged with?
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Can't wait for the Zimmerman reality show.
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I thought that was already the new progressive reality show. I mean, they run Zimmerman up the show line every two weeks or so...... Who else would be shown on national tv for a traffic stop for darkened windows on a car?
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Thought the subject of the thread was Zimmerman, but then, it's not unusual to see someone found in error to a point try to divert.
Since you insist, what exactly was martin charged with?
no. it's a pertinent part of the argument. would you be willing to defend Martin's innocence? yes or no?
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Thought the subject of the thread was Zimmerman, but then, it's not unusual to see someone found in error to a point try to divert.
Since you insist, what exactly was martin charged with?
There is no "diverting" here, but rather potentially exposing a hypocritical standard.

And to be more explicit, there are numerous pre and post-trial verdict posts on this forum explicitly bashing Martin. Bringing up all sorts of crap from his past where there was no conviction.
(That WAS the standard you talked about. That Zimmerman was innocent until convicted. And in your response, suddenly you're asking about what Martin was "charged with"... )

If you want one simple example of what I'm talking about, it was just a few posts earlier on this thread.
http://www.politicalwrinkles.com/new...tml#post622710

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no. it's a pertinent part of the argument. would you be willing to defend Martin's innocence? yes or no?
As Saltwn's post demonstrate, other people get the point I am making.
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Sure. Why wouldn't I? If Martin were charged in the incident, he would be innocent until proven guilty, just like Zimmerman. And just like Zimmerman when it came down to media exposure, they were both ran through the wringer. Isn't that fair and equal?
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