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Yea, it is different, but no better. Killing an enemy in combat is what the military is for, ridiculing a corpse is stupid.
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Killing an enemy in combat and ridiculing its corpse is not the same thing as some basement child going to the cemetery, digging up a corpse, and then dressing it up like a clown or something else.
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Yea, it is different, but no better. Killing an enemy in combat is what the military is for, ridiculing a corpse is stupid.
The number one rule of combat---There are no rules. Your opinion has been etched into concrete and will be given the honors it deserves.
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Who doesn't. How many died in Iraq due to our firepower?
The United States Military does not target innocents.
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The United States Military does not target innocents.
I didn't say they targeted them. I said thousands died because of our bombing. Shock and awe killed hundreds.
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I didn't say they targeted them. I said thousands died because of our bombing. Shock and awe killed hundreds.
That's like saying millions of spermatozoa died trying to fertilize the egg.

People are not going to get out of the way of incoming missiles and other projectiles, either because they have nowhere to go, they are captives of the cowards, or they really do not expect that the cowards have ensconced themselves and their weapons among the non-combatants.

If you are in a combat zone with your squad, and you get attacked by the opposing force of an equal number, and they are hiding behind women and children, and shooting at you and your men, and you have no hiding place, what do you do?

Non-hypothetical players here don't bother. Just go chew a prune or something.

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a raping jihai from alabamy...only in America
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Such foolishness does not project an image of military authority or bearing. It also demonstrates a complete lack of decorum and discipline. The right wing is so barbaric and primitive. Behavior such as this just emboldens the enemy and enhances the will to fight. It aint the Democrats the world laughs at when the look at America.
Herein lies the problem. Pacifists like you who think we can fight a war without killing civilians or putting the fear of God into enemy combatants. The only thing these people understand is brute strength. They believe they will go to heaven and get virgins by killing innocent women and children. You can't negotiate with that kind of mentality. And do you seriously think anything we do will make them any madder? They are stark raving lunatics already.

If you are an example of today's Democrat, I'm sure glad Harry Truman wasn't modeled after you. He saved at least 250,000 of our troops lives by having the balls to drop the A bomb on Japan. Do you think the Russians would have pulled out of Cuba if they thought JFK wouldn't use nuclear weapons? War is a dirty business. Show weakness or be a wuss and someone will kick your butt. That's why Putin has Obama on the run. He knows Obama is all talk and no action.
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Such foolishness does not project an image of military authority or bearing. It also demonstrates a complete lack of decorum and discipline. The right wing is so barbaric and primitive. Behavior such as this just emboldens the enemy and enhances the will to fight. It aint the Democrats the world laughs at when the look at America.
You are transparently incorrect, of course.

By nature the Right Wing, conservative is the more civilized end of the political spectrum. Civilization is perforce conservative.

War though is by its nature "barbaric and primitive." Attempting to make it other wise is a fools errand and a waste of resources.

Further, the aggressor in a conflict, by prompting war must embrace primitive barbarianism, and can be relied upon, again obviously, to respond to the dictates of that mindset. This is why I encourage such acts on our part as will cause our enemies to descend further into irrationality and thus become easier to destroy. Not defeat, destroy.
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Pacifist? Please, you are so completely clueless. We can discuss politics, but dont tell me about me. God, you guys think you know everything. Of course you cant fight a war without killing people often civilians. I think before we go to war it should be such a grave threat to our country it should be handled as self defense on a personal level. When we go to war we should pull out all the stops an fire up the war machine and completely dominate the country, annihilate the enemy, take what we want and come home. I believe enemy combatants should be killed in the field of battle while they have the means to resist. I believe the question of torture while you are in active combat and you can still be killed is up in the air. I believe POW's should be treated humanely. I believe our troops desecrating corpses, raping, pillaging and plundering are symptoms of poor discipline and lack of leadership and professionalism. You guys watch too many John Wayne movies or something, and even his characters would not piss on a dead enemy. You guys have this basic idea of everyone that has any sort of other opinion or doesn't completely agree with every single stupid far right wing idea as a Democrat and you have been told what they all think.
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Herein lies the problem. Pacifists like you who think we can fight a war without killing civilians or putting the fear of God into enemy combatants. The only thing these people understand is brute strength. They believe they will go to heaven and get virgins by killing innocent women and children. You can't negotiate with that kind of mentality. And do you seriously think anything we do will make them any madder? They are stark raving lunatics already.

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Of course I am wrong. Try not to think too much about it.
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You are transparently incorrect, of course.

By nature the Right Wing, conservative is the more civilized end of the political spectrum. Civilization is perforce conservative.

War though is by its nature "barbaric and primitive." Attempting to make it other wise is a fools errand and a waste of resources.

Further, the aggressor in a conflict, by prompting war must embrace primitive barbarianism, and can be relied upon, again obviously, to respond to the dictates of that mindset. This is why I encourage such acts on our part as will cause our enemies to descend further into irrationality and thus become easier to destroy. Not defeat, destroy.
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