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In case anyone is interested and you want to know the black perspective from the conservative side, check here:

Larry Elder - LarryElder.com - Home of the Larry Elder Show and the Elderados - The Sage From South Central

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Look at the success story of this woman:

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Look at Bill Cosby talking to Tim Russert about the problems in the
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Bill Cosby: 'We're in trouble' - Video on NBCNews.com




Be forewarned. Liberals consider these people to be Uncle Tom's and they refuse to listen to someone who has lived through it and fought their way out.
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You remind me of a red headed cousin of mine. When we were young he thought he was going to whoop my ass. He kept running at me and I just kept sidestepping him trying to avoid having to hit him. He got so pissed off that his whole head turned red with anger. After a couple of minutes his Dad grabbed a hold of him and held him until he settled down. I never laid a hand on him but he was just so worked up he couldn't stop. I felt bad for him. He just couldn't see how worked up he had become and for no good reason. Reminds me of you. You have no reason to always protect the right. Sometimes they do dumb stuff. Just like the left. But you can't admit it and just get all red headed about it all. I'm not even trying to trash the right. I think it was a big mistake. You can blame everyone you want but end of the day they could have shown up and brought Fox news along. They did not want to be seen in that crowd. You know it as well as I do but you are so red headed with not wanting to be wrong that you can't think right.
Why would you think I'm angry at you? Because I don't fall for your baloney and insist on presenting my side? You just can't understand it when someone has an opinion that doesn't jibe with yours. You think if you holler long enough and loud enough, you win. It don't work that way. You can't discuss a subject without getting upset because it isn't going your way. You think the Democrats are high idealists and they have really pulled the wool over your eyes. They are politicians, just like the Republicans. I realize that. I am also a realist. I know what the Democrats were doing with this, but you insist on accepting their every word and believing everything they say. They are playing politics just like they do with everything else. You won't look at this because it messes up your conception of the Democrats good, Republicans bad.
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Man, You just keep missing it don't you? This has nothing to do with black Republicans vs. black Democrats. This was a celebration of MLK and the march on DC.. Why do you keep trying to divide everyone by trying to make it some partisan stuff.

This is about people risking their lives to gain the rights for people who were denied them. It's the story of a non violent movement that overcame hate and violence. That is some pretty amazing stuff when you think of how it could have turned out. The man was assassinated trying to stop the injustices. That is why you go if you can on an anniversary like this.

You want to make this into some partisan crap?

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Man, You just keep missing it don't you? This has nothing to do with black Republicans vs. black Democrats. This was a celebration of MLK and the march on DC.. Why do you keep trying to divide everyone by trying to make it some partisan stuff.

This is about people risking their lives to gain the rights for people who were denied them. It's the story of a non violent movement that overcame hate and violence. That is some pretty amazing stuff when you think of how it could have turned out. The man was assassinated trying to stop the injustices. That is why you go if you can on an anniversary like this.

You want to make this into some partisan crap?

Your Democrats made it into partisan crap.

Let me ask you something. Are you saying just because someone wasn't there, it's a slap to the legacy of MLK? Does that mean since you weren't there, you don't believe he was a great man? Did you ever consider that people might have their own way to honor a man like MLK and that way might not be going to a public display with dishonest politicians and charlatans like Sharpton and Jackson who are all very insincere?

Your idealism is misplaced. I spent a lot of time in DC a few years back and I know some of these dunderheads personally. I went with them socially to bars and strip clubs and listened to their crap. They come in full of idealism and hope of change when they first get there, but after starting a second term, you can't tell a Republican from a Democrat for all but a very few. Money and power corrupt and if you think they have your essentials at heart you are sadly mistaken.
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By making the right not show up?

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Let me ask you something. Are you saying just because someone wasn't there, it's a slap to the legacy of MLK?
No, But when you need to start reaching out to minorities don'ty you think it would have been smart to be there? And if you could have shouldn't you have? I mean especially if you a public representative.
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Does that mean since you weren't there, you don't believe he was a great man?
I would have loved to have gone. It was a historic event and I have never been to our nations capital.
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Did you ever consider that people might have their own way to honor a man like MLK and that way might not be going to a public display with dishonest politicians and charlatans like Sharpton and Jackson who are all very insincere?
Did you ever consider that it isn't about who else is there it is about why nobody from the right could make it.

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Your idealism is misplaced. I spent a lot of time in DC a few years back and I know some of these dunderheads personally. I went with them socially to bars and strip clubs and listened to their crap. They come in full of idealism and hope of change when they first get there, but after starting a second term, you can't tell a Republican from a Democrat for all but a very few. Money and power corrupt and if you think they have your essentials at heart you are sadly mistaken.
You don't like your country much huh? I don't care about this. I think what happened 50 years ago was something special. I mean when you consider that the civil war was almost exactly 100 years before the March on DC. When you think about the lynchings. The four little girls killed in the Birmingham bombing. The violence that those guys put themselves in the way of and stayed non violent. Man that is some kind of guts. I don't know a lot of people who are willing to lay down their life for a better future for others. And to do it time after time. Thats some cajones. J Edger Hoover bugged the mans home. His own government was working against him and he still won. Even after his death he still won.

He deserved to be honored.
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By making the right not show up?

No, But when you need to start reaching out to minorities don'ty you think it would have been smart to be there? And if you could have shouldn't you have? I mean especially if you a public representative.I would have loved to have gone. It was a historic event and I have never been to our nations capital.Did you ever consider that it isn't about who else is there it is about why nobody from the right could make it.

You don't like your country much huh? I don't care about this. I think what happened 50 years ago was something special. I mean when you consider that the civil war was almost exactly 100 years before the March on DC. When you think about the lynchings. The four little girls killed in the Birmingham bombing. The violence that those guys put themselves in the way of and stayed non violent. Man that is some kind of guts. I don't know a lot of people who are willing to lay down their life for a better future for others. And to do it time after time. Thats some cajones. J Edger Hoover bugged the mans home. His own government was working against him and he still won. Even after his death he still won.

He deserved to be honored.
No Mikey. It doesn't do any good to JUST reach out to the black community just because you want their votes. If you aren't honest with them and yourself about what the real problems are, nothing will change and we'll go another half century with unemployment at 3 times the national average and a goodly percentage on welfare type programs. These people need jobs and a chance at an education in a GOOD school, not the crap schools you find in the inner cities. Slapping them on the back and being their buddy isn't going to accomplish that. Action is required and it is obvious we aren't getting that from either party.

And Mikey, just because your heart is in the right place doesn't mean the people in attendance felt the same way. The majority of them were there to further their careers.

And yes Mikey, I do like my country. A lot more than I like any kind of politician. But I am also a realist who knows if we don't make drastic changes and get this country back to it's financial stability and family values, we are doomed. If you like history, look at what happened to Rome and Greece and the great civilizations they once had. The parallels are staggering.

MLK was a man, just like a lot of other good men. If he had lived in this era, he would have probably been the first black president. I know I would have voted for him. He is someone to look up to, but I think he would have been the first to tell you not to idolize him.
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This doesn't change the fact that the organizers of the event did NOT do enough to get a diverse set of speakers at the event. They didn't even invite the only black senator in the whole Senate (who is a Republican). So in no way does this statement by O'Reilly exonerate them. Asking an ex-president who is in the hospital for heart problems who you KNOW isn't going to be able to attend? That's called making a token effort.
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This doesn't change the fact that the organizers of the event did NOT do enough to get a diverse set of speakers at the event. They didn't even invite the only black senator in the whole Senate (who is a Republican). So in no way does this statement by O'Reilly exonerate them. Asking an ex-president who is in the hospital for heart problems who you KNOW isn't going to be able to attend? That's called making a token effort.
Have you read this thread? They did ask Tim Scott to RSVP. He told them he couldn't make it. Because MLK wasn't important to him. The organizers were turned down by every republican. Are they supposed to ask pretty please. It was to honor MLK. Why couldn't they show up to do that? They asked all the presidents that are alive. Bush wanted to attend. Both of them but they couldn't. Were they supposed to change the date of the ceremony? Boehner was invited and instead is out on a republican tea party bus tour. They asked Cantor but he, as the representative from Virginia decided it was more important to visit oil businesses in North Dakota. Stop making excuses for these people.
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Have you read this thread? They did ask Tim Scott to RSVP.
That was for ATTENDANCE. Not to speak. Again, a token effort.
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That was for ATTENDANCE. Not to speak. Again, a token effort.
They didn't make the speaskers list until they knew who could attend. Stop covering for them. Even if what you said was true so what? It wasn't about the speakers. It was about MLK. Not one republican could attend?
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