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Old 07-06-2013, 04:59 PM
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Default Egypt crisis: Mansour appoints ElBaradei as interim PM

This is good news. I like ElBaradei. Glad to see they chose him.

Leading liberal Egyptian politician Mohamed ElBaradei has been named interim prime minister.

He was appointed following crisis talks led by President Adly Mahmud Mansour - three days after the army removed Islamist leader Mohammed Morsi amid growing nationwide unrest.

The move has in turn triggered mass unrest by supporters of Mr Morsi.

Mr ElBaradei - a former head of the UN's nuclear watchdog - is expected to be sworn in soon.

He and other party leaders attended a meeting called by Mr Mansour on Saturday.

Mr ElBaradei leads an alliance of liberal and left-wing parties, the National Salvation Front.

In a BBC interview on Thursday, he defended the army's intervention, saying: "We were between a rock and a hard place."

"It is a painful measure, nobody wanted that," he said. "But Mr Morsi unfortunately undermined his own legitimacy by declaring himself a few months ago as a pharaoh and then we got into a fist fight, and not a democratic process."

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. . .Mr ElBaradei - a former head of the UN's nuclear watchdog. . .
Well, that's about all I need to know to see that this will end in disaster.

After all, the U.N.'s chihuahua-like stuffed "watchdog" couldn't keep nuclear weapons away from a sub-industrial North Korea nor a medieval Iran.

This is just about as stupid and reckless as electing a narcissistic and shallow community agitator to the presidency of a major country.
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Well, that's about all I need to know to see that this will end in disaster.

After all, the U.N.'s chihuahua-like stuffed "watchdog" couldn't keep nuclear weapons away from a sub-industrial North Korea nor a medieval Iran.

This is just about as stupid and reckless as electing a narcissistic and shallow community agitator to the presidency of a major country.
Yeah I don't know how many choices there were out there. I liked the judge idea myself. Sort of chain of command
Egypt is having to come up with neo democratic ideas to fight corruption that was within. These people calling themselves Islamists are a bad lot set to take over the word if we don't find a way to stop them. So far the touchy feely thing hasn't werked.
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Yeah I don't know how many choices there were out there. I liked the judge idea myself. Sort of chain of command
Egypt is having to come up with neo democratic ideas to fight corruption that was within. These people calling themselves Islamists are a bad lot set to take over the word if we don't find a way to stop them. So far the touchy feely thing hasn't werked.
They had a democratic idea: free elections. They screwed it up. I don't see any good options for them at all. Blood will flow.

Seriously, this relates to why we suck at "nation building." For a democratic republic to succeed, in my vastly superior opinion, a nation must first have a deep tradition of rule by law, protected rights, and one of severely constrained violence.

We could do it, because we'd been Englishmen for many generations. Self government was a logical next step, not a huge leap.

If I had my way, I'd see a constitutional monarchy or something akin to it established in Egypt. then maybe their great-grandchildren would be sufficiently steeped in freedom to function as a republic.
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They had a democratic idea: free elections. They screwed it up. I don't see any good options for them at all. Blood will flow.

Seriously, this relates to why we suck at "nation building." For a democratic republic to succeed, in my vastly superior opinion, a nation must first have a deep tradition of rule by law, protected rights, and one of severely constrained violence.

We could do it, because we'd been Englishmen for many generations. Self government was a logical next step, not a huge leap.

If I had my way, I'd see a constitutional monarchy or something akin to it established in Egypt. then maybe their great-grandchildren would be sufficiently steeped in freedom to function as a republic.
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Doubts over ElBaradei's appointment as Egypt PM
BBC News - Doubts over ElBaradei's appointment as Egypt PM
6 July 2013


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Egypt's new president says pro-reform leader Mohamed Elbaradei has not yet been appointed as interim prime minister despite earlier reports.

A spokesman for interim President Adly Mansour said consultations were continuing.

Officials had earlier named Mr ElBaradei - a former head of the UN's nuclear watchdog - for the post.

News of his appointment had been criticised by the Salafist Nour Party, which said it would not work with him.
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Wasn't EB also part of the MB? Well, we knew the Ultra Conservative Salafis wouldn't go for that now.
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