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The country’s top investigator seemed to be in the dark Thursday when pressed to provide details of the IRS investigation into the tax agency’s targeting of Tea Party and conservative groups.

Rep. Jim Jordan, R-Ohio, seemed to rattle FBI Director Robert Mueller for not knowing the specifics surrounding the IRS probe.

“You’ve had a month now to investigate,” Jordan said. “This has been the biggest story in the country and you can’t even tell me who the lead investigator is. You can’t tell me the actions the inspector general took which are not typically how investigations are done. You can’t tell me if that’s appropriate or not. This is not speculation. This is what happened.”

Mueller repeatedly declined to answer Jordan’s questions, saying he couldn’t because the investigation was ongoing or that he’d have to get back to the lawmakers with answers.

When Jordan asked again,” Can you tell me who the lead investigator is?” Mueller responded, “Off the top of my head, no.”

The day didn’t go much better for the outgoing FBI chief. He was grilled for hours by lawmakers on a number of different topics, including the federal government’s surveillance programs, the Benghazi scandal and the Boston Marathon bombings.

Mueller defended the government's collection of millions of U.S. phone records, emails and other information as vital to the nation's national security.

Early in the hearing, Mueller tried to make the case for the National Security Agency surveillance programs and said that law enforcement “must stay a step ahead of criminals and terrorists” while still heeding the civil liberties of Americans.

Mueller, who is stepping down from his post in September, said that if the metadata collection program had been in place before the Sept. 11, 2001, terror attacks, they would have identified one of the 9/11 hijackers in San Diego and most likely derailed the plot.

But Judiciary Committee Chairman John Conyers Jr. said he was “not persuaded that the argument makes it OK to collect information on every call,” adding, that by Mueller’s interpretation, it would be “anything and everything goes” situation.

Mueller also testified that the government’s controversial surveillance programs that recently surfaced complied “in full with U.S. law and with basic rights guaranteed under the Constitution.”
The Justice Department revealed last month that it had secretly gathered emails of Fox News correspondent James Rosen and phone records of The Associated Press in an effort to crack down on leakers of classified information.

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Typical Obama executive. Don't know nuting about nuting.
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Typical Obama executive. Don't know nuting about nuting.
Mueller is full of it. The idea that the FBI would have identified one of the 9/11 terrorists in San Diego and foiled the attack is a flat out lie. The terrorists who hijacked and flew those airplanes into the WTC and the Pentagon, trained, lived, and partied openly, without any interference or scrutiny in South Florida for months, several of them with expired visa's. Their activities were known by the local police departments, who had several run-in's with them over drinking and brawling and beating women, and there was absolutely no record check done on any of them by the flight schools and simulator testing and training they took in Opa Locka, Florida, West Palm Beach, Florida and Titesville, Florida. T

The fact that everyone in the American intelligence community knew of Al Quida, Osama Bin Laden, and the threat they posed to America, was first furnished to the FBI, CIA and Congress by Colonel Oliver North during the Iran Contra hearings during the Reagan Administration. The fact that the terrorists downed an American jetliner over Lockerbie, Scotland; blew a hole in the side of an American naval vessel using a rubber raft; bombed two American embassies in East Africa, and previously had bombed the World Trade Center Building in New York City, perhaps should have sent a subtle message to the FBI that we might have terrorists issues?......No? On most occasions, the FBI is more concerned with image than results, and any surveillance of American's mail, e-mails etc, wouldn't have stopped the 9/11 tragedy. However, a few alert agents out of the Miami or Jacksonville, Florida FBI field offices, following up on expired Saudi visas, with a group of publicly angry, anti-American terrorists operating and training openly on our own soil might have aroused their curiosity. Next time we will bring in the actor's from Criminal Minds to handle the case, the real FBI guys don't know jack. Didn't then, don't now, and as usual, the Director is more concerned with protecting the Bureau's image than preventing crime.

BTW, same mindset existed throughout the entire reign of J.Edgar Hoover as FBI Director, and a bit of curiosity by an agent in Dallas, following up on a disgruntled expatriated American, who returned from living in the Soviet Union, and was on file as a person of interest to be contacted, probably would have saved the life of President John F. Kennedy. Mueller is an idiot, and the Bureau hasn't changed one bit since 1929.....Stan
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