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Mikeyy 05-22-2013 11:25 PM

Tesla repays government loan early, a boost for electric cars
 
My friend has one of these Tesla and I have driven it a few times. 0-60 MPH in 3.6 seconds. Amazing little sports car. I think they stopped making it and went to the sedan.

Tesla is proving that a U.S. electric car company can succeed. It paid off a $465 million loan nine years early

Hairy Jello 05-22-2013 11:49 PM

Re: Tesla repays government loan early, a boost for electric cars
 
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Originally Posted by Mikeyy (Post 562582)
My friend has one of these Tesla and I have driven it a few times. 0-60 MPH in 3.6 seconds. Amazing little sports car. I think they stopped making it and went to the sedan.

Tesla is proving that a U.S. electric car company can succeed. It paid off a $465 million loan nine years early

Your friend has a Tesla Roadster? $11O million base price [random engine fires optional] and it's all yours. Then you can be a rich moron with an overpriced POS vehicle and no taste in cars.

AzMike 05-23-2013 12:02 AM

Re: Tesla repays government loan early, a boost for electric cars
 
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Originally Posted by Hairy Jello (Post 562592)
Your friend has a Tesla Roadster? $11O million base price [random engine fires optional] and it's all yours. Then you can be a rich moron with an overpriced POS vehicle and no taste in cars.

Mickey thinks the government should cover $109,999,999.00 of that cost. He thinks that's capitalism.

saltwn 05-23-2013 12:02 AM

Re: Tesla repays government loan early, a boost for electric cars
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Mikeyy (Post 562582)
My friend has one of these Tesla and I have driven it a few times. 0-60 MPH in 3.6 seconds. Amazing little sports car. I think they stopped making it and went to the sedan.

Tesla is proving that a U.S. electric car company can succeed. It paid off a $465 million loan nine years early

:thumbsup

40yearfan 05-23-2013 12:32 AM

Re: Tesla repays government loan early, a boost for electric cars
 
These cars are being sold to high end users only (average car around $100.000.00)and our tax dollars are subsidizing these well to do people with $7,500 of our tax dollars for every vehicle. George Clooney who has all the money in the world bought one and we, the American taxpayer paid for $7,500 of his cost. Of all the people to subsidize, he is the last person to need it.

Also the cars are made overseas.

Other than that, I wish them well and hope they sell enough automobiles to open a plant in the US and hire American workers.











































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Hairy Jello 05-23-2013 12:41 AM

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Interesting facts about the Roadster. Not exactly jumpin' off the shelves. Only 2,4OO cars sold through September of last year? Can only be sold in Europe, Asia, and Australia? Can no longer be sold in the American market?

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Since 2008 Tesla has sold more than 2,400 units worldwide through September 2012.[3][4] Featuring new options and enhanced features, the 2012 Tesla Roadster is being sold in limited numbers only in Europe, Asia and Australia, and as of July 2012, less than 140 units are available for sale in Europe and Asia before the remaining production is sold out.[3] Tesla's U.S. exemption for not having special two-stage passenger airbags expired for cars made after the end of 2011 so the last Roadsters are no longer being sold in the American market.
And then there's this.

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Top Gear controversy

In the autumn of 2008, Top Gear's Jeremy Clarkson reviewed two production Roadsters with the v1.5 transmission and described the driving experience with the exclamations "God almighty! Wave goodbye to the world of dial-up, and say hello to the world of broadband motoring!" and "This car is biblically quick!" when comparing the acceleration versus a Lotus Elise. Clarkson also noted, however, that the handling of the car was not as sharp as that of the Lotus Elise: "through the corners things are less rosy".[160] The Stig recorded a time of 1:27.2 on a moist track, faster than a Nissan 370Z on a dry track but slower than a Porsche 911 C2S also on a damp track, and also slower than the Lotus Exige, Exige S and Evora.[161] The segment also showed the car's batteries running flat after 55 miles (89 km) of heavy use.[clarification needed].

Tesla Motors' spokesperson responded with statements in blogs and to mainstream news organizations that the cars provided to Top Gear never had less than 20% charge and never experienced brake failure.[162] In addition, neither car provided to Top Gear needed to be pushed off the track at any point.[163] Finally, although Clarkson showed a limp windmill and complained that it would take countless hours to refuel the car using such a source of electricity, the car can be charged from a 240 V outlet in as little as 3.5 hours.[164][165] After numerous blogs and several large news organizations began following the controversy,[166] the BBC issued a statement saying "the tested Tesla was filmed being pushed into the shed in order to show what would happen if the Roadster had run out of charge. Top Gear stands by the findings in this film and is content that it offers a fair representation of the Tesla's performance on the day it was tested", without addressing the other alleged misrepresentations that Tesla highlighted to the media.[167] After several weeks of increasing pressure and inquiries from the BBC, Clarkson wrote a blog for The Times, acknowledging that "Inevitably, the film we had shot was a bit of a mess. There was a handful of shots of a silver car. Some of a grey car". "But as a device for moving you and your things around, it is about as much use as a bag of muddy spinach".[160] In the months that followed Clarkson's acknowledgment, the original episode—including the misstatements—reran on BBC America and elsewhere without any editing, though the BBC is still looking into Top Gear's journalism standards, according to British media reports.[168]

On March 29, 2011, Tesla sued the programme over libel and malicious falsehood, while simultaneously launching the website TeslaVsTopGear.com. The current position of Tesla is found on their web page.[169] In a blogpost, producer Andy Wilman has referred to Tesla's allegations as a "crusade" and argued the truth value of Tesla's statements.[170] On October 19, 2011, the High Court in London rejected Tesla's libel claim.[171]
Tesla Roadster - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

SwissMan 05-23-2013 06:32 AM

Re: Tesla repays government loan early, a boost for electric cars
 
well,at least the Batteries are lowpriced for it! :)

Mikeyy 05-23-2013 06:41 AM

Re: Tesla repays government loan early, a boost for electric cars
 
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Originally Posted by Hairy Jello (Post 562592)
Your friend has a Tesla Roadster? $11O million base price [random engine fires optional] and it's all yours. Then you can be a rich moron with an overpriced POS vehicle and no taste in cars.

Wow, what are you mad at Teslas for? My friend is rich and can afford it. Unless you have driven one you really don't get it. It will kick the shlt out of a farrari and it sounds like a space craft. I've had large motorcycles in the past and this thing has torgue you would not believe. I would not own one myself. Well, I mean unless someone gave me one. But if you can afford something like it for fun it's a hell of a ride. He drives it to work every day. Say his electric bill went up $30 a month for the charger. Try not to be too mad about it man. :rolls

squerly 05-23-2013 09:00 AM

Re: Tesla repays government loan early, a boost for electric cars
 
I was a heartbeat away from purchasing the roadster several years back. Decided against it because (at the time) there were not enough locations in my area to support it. Nothing like having a $100K car and no qualified mechanic. Personally, I like Tesla and I can't fault it because of a TV program. The car maker is in its infancy and just like any technology, it's going to have issues.

A friend of mine bought a Model S about 6 months ago and it's a really nice ride. He doesn't have any outstanding car handling skills so I'm reluctant to hope in and let him impress me... lol. But it has a bucket load of torque and a bunch of cool tech stuff. Seriously, I'd buy one if my stable wasn't already overstocked.

saltwn 05-23-2013 09:18 AM

Re: Tesla repays government loan early, a boost for electric cars
 
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Originally Posted by squerly (Post 562695)
I was a heartbeat away from purchasing the roadster several years back. Decided against it because (at the time) there were not enough locations in my area to support it. Nothing like having a $100K car and no qualified mechanic. Personally, I like Tesla and I can't fault it because of a TV program. The car maker is in its infancy and just like any technology, it's going to have issues.

A friend of mine bought a Model S about 6 months ago and it's a really nice ride. He doesn't have any outstanding car handling skills so I'm reluctant to hope in and let him impress me... lol. But it has a bucket load of torque and a bunch of cool tech stuff. Seriously, I'd buy one if my stable wasn't already overstocked.

Eventhough there's no antique repair within 150 miles of me I decided to buy a high back couch I love. And most people won't even sit on it. I got it strictly for myself after having for years had to buy easily cleaned, easy to move furniture. But now with the kids grown, the ornate carvings and "unfluffy" low seating are a joy to my heart. :)


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