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Old 05-16-2008, 03:50 PM
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We are getting far afield. Islam is now the largest religion.
Not in my backyard. The major religion in the United States is Christianity, and it is estimated that approximately 78% of the adult population are Christians. In addition, a 2005 survey shows that the Islamic religion rates low in popularity:
"the highest, generally-accepted estimate of Muslims (including children) in the United States is 2.35 million (0.8% of the total population)."
Religion in the United States - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Islam may be the largest religion in Muslim countries, but not in the US of A. In fact, worldwide Islam IS NOT the largest religion. Here are some figures taken in 2005:
"According to the 2005 survey of Encyclopędia Britannica, the vast majority of religious and spiritual adherents follow Christianity (33.06% of world population), Islam (20.28%), Hinduism (13.33%), Chinese folk religion (6.27%) or Buddhism (5.87%). The irreligious and atheists are 14.27% and 3.97% follow indigenous tribal religions."
Major religious groups - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
This shows that Islam is not the largest religion in the world. Gotta love Google, eh?

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Why doesn't the U.S. condemn Egypt. Or why not appoligize to the Iranians for the Shah.
No reason to. Why?

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This stuff can go on and on. Muslins died on 9-11 too.
Which shows that Muslim extremist do not care about killing their own. Fast forward to present day and you will see that this is still the case. Suicide bombers in Iraq blowing up markets full of fellow Muslims is more proof.

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I'll bet you don't remember the buddists condemn 9-11 did you?
Yes, I vaguely remember even though that was so long ago. But then again, EVERYONE was condemning the attacks at the time. A monk's statement circa 9-11 sums it up quite nicely:
Reflections on 9/11
by Ven K Sri Dhammananda
The perpetrators (of the 9/11 attacks) are definitely heartless and mindless. What sort of mind have these people developed? How far have they come to develop such cruelty where so many innocent people have died for nothing?

No sane mind, religious or otherwise, would contemplate on such cruelty to kill so many innocent people. No true religion would sanction such barbaric actions. These people have no compassion, no virtues and takes advantage the name of a religion to justify their cruel acts.
Buddhist Channel | Buddhism News, Headlines | Dharma Dew | 9/11: A monk's reflection
I wonder what WOULD happen if a prominent Islamic figure would come out and condemn Osama Bin Laden? The chances of that happening are very slim, being that these same clerics and leaders share in the same extreme ideology that Osama believes in. They believe that Americans and the west should be destroyed, and their Jihad shows their true colors.

If they want to continue this Jihad of their's, and if they think that they can infiltrate our principles and ideals by showing support for Obama, and if they think they can get sympathy from this country's left, then so be it. There is one way to deal with this type of extremist vermin. I say "Nuke em all and let God sort them out". Metaphorically speaking, of course.
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Survey: U.S. Muslims Assimilated, Opposed to Extremism - washingtonpost.com



U.S. muslims urge protesters to stopviolence - International Herald Tribune
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Nice find but one is from 2006 and the other is from 2007 and yet I haven't hear any protest in the news which I am sure the news would cover it if it happened.
Mikeyy again I believe all human life if it chooses to has value for the good. My concern is I have heard that even here in America that at the larger places of worship there has been more militant speakers. Again my understanding is that they can't question the elders of the religion nor separate it from thir form of, outside our country government.
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Nice find but one is from 2006 and th eother is from 2007 and yet I haven't hear any protest in the news which I am sure would cover it if it happened.
Who is in the streets protesting anything? Where are the Catholics protesting Chavez?
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And my retort to that?...

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Muslims For A Safe America conducted a survey at the Islamic Society of North America’s 43rd Annual Convention in Chicago from September 1, 2006 to September 4, 2006.

307 Muslims who are American citizens participated in the survey at the Muslims For A Safe America booth at ISNA.
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1. Are you a U.S. Citizen? (If no, then don’t fill out survey.)
YES 307
NO 0

2. Do you consider yourself to be a Muslim first, an American first, or both equally?
MUSLIM FIRST 214
AMERICAN FIRST 4

BOTH EQUALLY 86
UNDECIDED 3

3. Is the American government at war with the religion of Islam?
YES 208
NO 79
UNDECIDED 20

4. Can a good Muslim be a good American?
YES 292
NO 11
UNDECIDED 4

5. Did Muslims hijack planes and fly them into buildings on 9/11?
YES 117
NO 139
UNDECIDED 51

6. Did the U.S. government have advance knowledge of the 9/11 attacks, and allow the attacks to occur?
YES 200
NO 70
UNDECIDED 37

7. Did the U.S. government organize the 9/11 attacks?
YES 106
NO 151
UNDECIDED 50

8. Are the tapes of Osama Bin Laden, claiming responsibility for the 9/11 attacks and threatening future attacks, real or fake?
REAL 126
FAKE 129
UNDECIDED 52

9. Did Muslims commit the July 2005 train and bus bombings in London?
YES 140
NO 104
UNDECIDED 63

10. The Canadian government says it stopped a plot by Canadian Muslims in June 2006 to attack targets in Canada. Do you believe there was a real plot by Muslims?
YES 61
NO 202
UNDECIDED 44

11. The British government says it stopped a plot by British Muslims in August 2006 to bomb planes flying to America. Do you believe there was a real plot by Muslims?
YES 66
NO 191
UNDECIDED 50

12. Is Al Qaeda a real organization, operated by Muslims who are trying to attack America?
YES 149
NO 109
UNDECIDED 49

13. Is Al Qaeda attacking America because Al Qaeda hates American freedoms?
YES 17
NO 269
UNDECIDED 21

14. Is Al Qaeda attacking America because Al Qaeda hates American involvement in the Muslim world?
YES 228
NO 54
UNDECIDED 25

21. Should Iran develop nuclear weapons?
YES 161
NO 123
UNDECIDED 23


25. Was America justified in invading Afghanistan after 9/11?
YES 51
NO 248
UNDECIDED 8

28. Is violence by Muslims against the American military in the U.S. acceptable, in retaliation for the American government’s actions in the Muslim world?
YES 73

NO 211
UNDECIDED 23
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30. If you learned about a plot by Muslims to attack targets inside America, would you tell law enforcement authorities?
YES 234
NO 39
UNDECIDED 34
39 out of 307 (12.7%) Muslim AMERICANS wouldn't tell law enforcement about an Islamic attack inside America...

yeah...REEEALLLY assimilated there...
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If you ask a Christian American if they are a Christian or an American first I wonder what the poll numbers would be.
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Hey we are all on a different subject again.
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I can show you Christians who say the U.S. is doomed. Whats yer point?
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Thank you cnredd as this is what I was referring to. I just wasn't sure if it was on this site or at the other. And I never find what I want when I use the search function.

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1. Are you a U.S. Citizen? (If no, then don’t fill out survey.)
YES 307
NO 0

2. Do you consider yourself to be a Muslim first, an American first, or both equally?
MUSLIM FIRST 214
AMERICAN FIRST 4
BOTH EQUALLY 86
UNDECIDED 3

3. Is the American government at war with the religion of Islam?
YES 208
NO 79
UNDECIDED 20

4. Can a good Muslim be a good American?
YES 292
NO 11
UNDECIDED 4

5. Did Muslims hijack planes and fly them into buildings on 9/11?
YES 117
NO 139
UNDECIDED 51

6. Did the U.S. government have advance knowledge of the 9/11 attacks, and allow the attacks to occur?
YES 200
NO 70
UNDECIDED 37

7. Did the U.S. government organize the 9/11 attacks?
YES 106
NO 151
UNDECIDED 50

8. Are the tapes of Osama Bin Laden, claiming responsibility for the 9/11 attacks and threatening future attacks, real or fake?
REAL 126
FAKE 129
UNDECIDED 52

9. Did Muslims commit the July 2005 train and bus bombings in London?
YES 140
NO 104
UNDECIDED 63

10. The Canadian government says it stopped a plot by Canadian Muslims in June 2006 to attack targets in Canada. Do you believe there was a real plot by Muslims?
YES 61
NO 202
UNDECIDED 44

11. The British government says it stopped a plot by British Muslims in August 2006 to bomb planes flying to America. Do you believe there was a real plot by Muslims?
YES 66
NO 191
UNDECIDED 50

12. Is Al Qaeda a real organization, operated by Muslims who are trying to attack America?
YES 149
NO 109
UNDECIDED 49

13. Is Al Qaeda attacking America because Al Qaeda hates American freedoms?
YES 17
NO 269
UNDECIDED 21

14. Is Al Qaeda attacking America because Al Qaeda hates American involvement in the Muslim world?
YES 228
NO 54
UNDECIDED 25

21. Should Iran develop nuclear weapons?
YES 161
NO 123
UNDECIDED 23


25. Was America justified in invading Afghanistan after 9/11?
YES 51
NO 248
UNDECIDED 8

28. Is violence by Muslims against the American military in the U.S. acceptable, in retaliation for the American government’s actions in the Muslim world?
YES 73
NO 211
UNDECIDED 23

And the kicker...


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30. If you learned about a plot by Muslims to attack targets inside America, would you tell law enforcement authorities?
YES 234
NO 39
UNDECIDED 34
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