Manhunt launched for ex-L.A. cop wanted in shootings

mr. wonder · #1 (**permalink**) 02-07-2013, 01:39 PM

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We have a disgruntled ex-cop, ex military, Christopher Dorner, at large in Southern California who is hunting down police officers that he names for corruption in a letter to media and police. He is also targeting those officer's family members.

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LOS ANGELES (Reuters) - Authorities in California launched a statewide manhunt on Thursday for a fired Los Angeles policeman who threatened "warfare" on cops and was suspected in a string of shootings that killed three people, one of them a police officer, and wounded two others.

Former officer Christopher Dorner, 33, a U.S. Navy reservist, was suspected in an ambush shooting of two police officers in Riverside, east of Los Angeles, early on Thursday, killing one and critically wounding the other, police said.

He was also suspected of exchanging gunfire earlier in the morning, with two Los Angeles police officers who were on their way to provide protection for a person identified as a potential target of Dorner. One of those two officers suffered a graze wound to the head, but his partner was unhurt, police said.

Dorner had been named as a suspect on Wednesday in the weekend shooting deaths of the daughter of a retired Los Angeles police captain and her fiance, whose bodies were found on Sunday in the Orange County town of Irvine....

The Police have taken a shoot 1st ask questions later attitude and have shot at several driving a truck similar to Dorner's

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.. The Los Angeles Times reported that police in Torrance, just south of Los Angeles, were involved in two shootings early on Thursday that occurred when officers encountered vehicles similar to the one Dorner is believed to be driving, but neither shooting actually involved the suspect.

Police told the newspaper that two people struck by gunfire in the first shooting were taken to the hospital with unknown injuries, and no officers were hurt....

The guys letter is interesting, and may point to legitimate grievances. Definitely not grievances that are unheard of in the L.A. Police dept or other police depts .. But his remedy off the farm extreme.

I'm sure the media are going to psych analyze this guy to death.. And the LAPD will kill him before he reaches trial. I pray the killing stops.

Idealogically Promiscuous · #2 (**permalink**) 02-07-2013, 01:53 PM

I saw this on the news last night. KTLAA has his entire manifesto listed on their web site. I hope they get this nutter soon.

mr. wonder · #3 (**permalink**) 02-07-2013, 01:57 PM

Parts of the letter

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I know most of you who personally know me are in disbelief to hear from media reports that I am suspected of committing such horrendous murders and have taken drastic and shocking actions in the last couple of days. You are saying to yourself that this is completely out of character of the man you knew who always wore a smile wherever he was seen. I know I will be villified by the LAPD and the media. Unfortunately, this is a necessary evil that I do not enjoy but must partake and complete for substantial change to occur within the LAPD and reclaim my name. The department has not changed since the Rampart and Rodney King days. It has gotten worse. The consent decree should never have been lifted. The only thing that has evolved from the consent decree is those officers involved in the Rampart scandal and Rodney King incidents have since promoted to supervisor, commanders, and command staff, and executive positions...

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In 8/07 I reported an officer (Ofcr. Teresa Evans/now a Sergeant), for kicking a suspect (excessive force) during a Use of Force while I was assigned as a patrol officer at LAPD’s Harbor Division. While cuffing the suspect, (Christopher Gettler), Evans kicked the suspect twice in the chest and once in the face. The kick to the face left a visible injury on the left cheek below the eye. Unfortunately after reporting it to supervisors and investigated by PSB (internal affairs investigator Det. Villanueva/Gallegos), nothing was done. I had broken their supposed “Blue Line”. Unfortunately, It’s not JUST US, it’s JUSTICE!!! In fact, 10 months later on 6/25/08, after already successfully completing probation, acquiring a basic Post Certificate, and Intermediate Post Certificate, I was relieved of duty by the LAPD while assigned to patrol at Southwest division. It is clear as day that the department retaliated toward me for reporting Evans for kicking Mr. Christopher Gettler. The department stated that I had lied and made up the report that
Evans had kicked the suspect. I later went to a Board of Rights (department hearing for decision of continued employment) from 10/08 to 1/09. During this BOR hearing a video was played for the BOR panel where Christopher Gettler stated that he was indeed kicked by Officer Evans (video sent to multiple news agencies). In addition to Christopher Gettler stating he was kicked, his father Richard Gettler, also stated that his son had stated he was kicked by an officer when he was arrested after being released from custody. This was all presented for the department at the BOR hearing. They still found me guilty and terminated me. What they didn’t mention was that the BOR panel made up of Capt. Phil Tingirides, Capt. Justin Eisenberg, and City Attorney Martella had a signigicant problem from the time the board was assembled. Capt. Phil Tingirides was a personal friend of Teresa Evans from when he was her supervisor at Harbor station. That is a clear conflict of interest and I made my argument for his removal early and was denied. The advocate for the LAPD BOR was Sgt. Anderson. Anderson also had a conflict of interest as she was Evans friend and former partner from Harbor division where they both worked patrol together. I made my argument for her removal when I discovered her relation to Evans and it was denied.
During the BOR, the department attempted to label me unsuccessfully as a bully. They stated that I had bullied a recruit, Abraham Schefres, in the academy when in reality and unfounded disposition from the official 1.28 formal complaint investigation found that I was the one who stood up for Abraham Schefres when other recruits sang nazi hitler youth songs about burning Jewish ghettos in WWII Germany where his father was a survivor of a concentration camp. How ****ing dare you attempt to label me with such a nasty vile word. I ask that all earnest journalist investigating this story ask Ofcr. Abraham Schefres about the incident when Ofcr. Burdios began singing a nazi youth song about burning jewish ghettos....

...What they failed to mention in the BOR was Teresa Evans own use of force history during her career on the LAPD. She has admitted that she has a lengthy use of force record and has been flagged several times by risk management. She has a very well known nickname, Chupacabra, which she was very proud to flaunt around the division. She found it very funny and entertaining to draw blood from suspects and arrestees. At one point she even intentionally ripped the flesh off the arm of a woman we had arrested for battery (sprayed her neighbor with a garden water hose). Knowing the woman had thin elastic skin, she performed and Indian burn to the woman’s arm after cuffing her. That woman was in her mid-70’s, a mother and grandmother, and was angry at her tenants who failed to pay rent on time....

I ask that all journalist investigating this story submit request for FOIA with the LAPD to gain access to the BOR transcripts which occurred from 10/08 to 2/09. There, you will see that a video was played for the BOR members of Mr. Christopher Gettler who suffers from Schizophrenia and Dementia stating that he was kicked by a female officer. That video evidence supports my claim that Evans kicked him twice in the upper body and once in the face. I would like all journalist to also request copies of all reports that I had written while employed by LAPD.

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...I lost my position as a Commanding Officer of a Naval Security Forces reserve unit at NAS Fallon because of the LAPD. I’ve lost a relationship with my mother
and sister because of the LAPD. I’ve lost a relationship with close friends because of the LAPD. In essence, I’ve lost everything because the LAPD took my name and new I was INNOCENT!!! Capt Phil Tingirides, Justin Eisenberg, Martella, Randy Quan, and Sgt. Anderson all new I was innocent but decided to terminate me so they could continue Ofcr. Teresa Evans career. I know about the meeting between all of you where Evans attorney, Rico, confessed that she kicked Christopher Gettler (excessive force). Your day has come.
I’m not an aspiring rapper, I’m not a gang member, I’m not a dope dealer, I don’t have multiple babies momma’s. I am an American by choice, I am a son, I am a brother, I am a military service member, I am a man who has lost complete faith in the system, when the system betrayed, slandered, and libeled me. I lived a good life and though not a religious man I always stuck to my own personal code of ethics, ethos and always stuck to my shoreline and true North. I didn’t need the US Navy to instill Honor, Courage, and Commitment in me but I thank them for re-enforcing it. It’s in my DNA....

No one is saying you can’t be prejudiced or a bigot. We are all human and hold prejudices. If you state that you don’t have prejudices, your lying! But, when you act on it and victimize innocent citizens and fellow innocen officers, than that is a concern.
For you officers who do the job in the name of JUSTICE, those of you who lost honest officers to this event, look at the name of those on the BOR and the investigating officers
from PSB and Evans and ask them, how come you couldn’t tell the truth? Why did you terminate an honest officer and cover for a dishonest officer who victimized a mentally ill citizen.
Sometimes humans feel a need to prove they are the dominant race of a species and they inadvertently take kindness for weakness from another individual. You chose wrong.
Terminating officers because they expose a culture of lying, racism (from the academy), and excessive use of force will immediately change. PSB can not police their own and that has been proven. The blue line will forever be severed and a cultural change will be implanted. You have awoken a sleeping giant.
I am here to change and make policy. The culture of LAPD versus the community and honest/good officers needs to and will change. I am here to correct and calibrate your morale compasses to true north.....

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...Those of you who “go along to get along” have no backbone and destroy the foundation of courage. You are the enablers of those who are guilty of misconduct. You are just as guilty as those who break the code of ethics and oath you swore.
Citizens/non-combatants, do not render medical aid to downed officers/enemy combatants. They would not do the same for you. They will let you bleed out just so they can brag to other officers that they had a 187 caper the other day and can’t wait to accrue the overtime in future court subpoenas. As they always say, “that’s the paramedics job…not mine”. Let the balance of loss of life take place. Sometimes a reset needs to occur.
It is endless the amount of times per week officers arrest an individual, label him a suspect-arrestee-defendant and then before arraignment or trial realize that he is innocent based on evidence. You know what they say when they realize an innocent man just had his life turned upside down?. “I guess he should have stayed at home that day he was discovered walking down the street and matching the suspects description. Oh well, he appeared to be a dirtbag anyways”. Meanwhile the falsely accused is left to pick up his life, get a new, family, friends, and sense of self worth.
Don’t honor these fallen officers/dirtbags. When your family members die, they just see you as extra overtime at a crime scene and at a perimeter. Why would you value their lives when they clearly don’t value yours or your family members lives? I’ve heard many officers who state they see dead victims as ATV’s, Waverunners, RV’s and new clothes for their kids. Why would you shed a tear for them when they in return crack a smile for your loss because of the impending extra money they will receive in their next paycheck for sitting at your loved ones crime scene of 6 hours because of the overtime they will accrue. They take photos of your loved ones recently deceased bodies with their cellphones and play a game of who has the most graphic dead body of the night with officers from other divisions. This isn’t just the 20 something year old officers, this is the 50 year old officers with significant time on the job as well who participate....

ends with more threats to the police and info on his expertise with weapons and marksmanship and knowledge of their tactics.

this is just bad news all around, no winners

mlurp · #4 (**permalink**) 02-07-2013, 02:11 PM

From what I just heard on Fox News he is a Naval reservists.. I wonder how big his guns are?

ing aside he might have a few issues with the LAPD, like many others. But to handle it this way makes him a nut case.

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he will get killed if the LAPD has a open shot, unless he gets a lawyer and turns himself in.

Hasn't some others by mistake been shot at or worst, for having a car like his in an area where he has already threaten another on his hit list.

cnredd · #5 (**permalink**) 02-07-2013, 02:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Idealogically Promiscuous

I saw this on the news last night. KTLAA has his entire manifesto listed on their web site. I hope they get this nutter soon.

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Originally Posted by mr. wonder

Parts of the letter

The media will NOT report these parts of his manifesto...

That would hurt the narrative...

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You disrespect the office of the POTUS/Presidency and Commander in Chief. You call him Kenyan, mongroid, halfrican, muslim, and FBHO when in essence you are to address him as simply, President. The same as you did to President George W. Bush and all those in the highest ranking position of our land before him. Just as I always have. You question his birth certificate, his educational and professional accomplishments, and his judeo-christian beliefs. You make disparaging remarks about his dead parents. You never questioned the fact that his former opponent, the honorable Senator John McCain, was not born in the CONUS or that Bush had a C average in his undergrad. Electoral Candidates children (Romney) state they want to punch the president in the face during debates with no formal repercussions. No one even questioned the fact that the son just made a criminal threat toward the President. You call his wife a Wookie. Off the record, I love your new bangs, Mrs. Obama.

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Mr. President, I haven't agreed with all of your decisions but of course I haven't agreed with all of your predecessors decisions. I think you've done a hell of a job with what you have been dealt and how you have managed it. I shed a tear the night you were initially elected President in 2008. I never thought that day would occur. A black man elected president in the U.S. in my lifetime. I cracked a smiled when you were re-elected in 2012 because I really didn't think you were going to pull that one off. Romney, stop being a sore loser. You could've exited graciously and still contributed significantly to public service, not now. Mr. President, get back to work. Many want to see you fail as they have stated so many times previously. Unfortunately, if you fail, the U.S. fails but your opponents do not concern themselves about the big picture.

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Mr. Vice President, do your due diligence when formulating a concise and permanent national AWB plan. Future generations of Americans depend on your plan and advisement to the president. I've always been a fan of yours and consider you one of the few genuine and charismatic politicians. Damn, sounds like an oxymoron calling you an honest politician. It's the truth.

Hillary Clinton. You'll make one hell of a president in 2016. Much like your husband, Bill, you will be one of the greatest. Look at Castro in San Antonio as a running mate or possible secretary of state. He's (good people) and I have faith and confidence in him. Look after Bill. He was always my favorite President. Chelsea grew up to be one hell of an attractive woman. No disrespect to her husband.

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Wayne LaPierre, President of the NRA, you're a vile and inhumane piece of ****. You never even showed 30 seconds of empathy for the children, teachers, and families of Sandy Hook. You deflected any type of blame/responsibility and directed it toward the influence of movies and the media. You are a failure of a human being. May all of your immediate and distant family die horrific deaths in front of you.

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Chris Matthews, Joe Scarborough, Pat Harvey, Brian Williams, Soledad Obrien, Wolf Blitzer, Meredith Viera, Tavis Smiley, and Anderson Cooper, keep up the great work and follow Cronkite's lead. I hold many of you in the same regard as Tom Brokaw and the late Peter Jennings. Cooper, stop nagging and berating your guest, they're your (guest). Mr. Scarborough, we met at McGuire's pub in P-cola in 2002 when I was stationed there. It was an honor conversing with you about politics, family, and life.

saltwn · #6 (**permalink**) 02-07-2013, 02:47 PM

people are going nutz all over the place. wt heck?

Idealogically Promiscuous · #7 (**permalink**) 02-07-2013, 03:02 PM

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Originally Posted by cnredd

The media will NOT report these parts of his manifesto...

That would hurt the narrative...

I am not sure what the narrative is supposed to be here. The guy is a nutter and killed two members of an officer's family. He is at large and needs to be stopped now. That's pretty much the report.

And the local news has posted his entire screed for all to see. Can you clarify what you mean?

cnredd · #8 (**permalink**) 02-07-2013, 03:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Idealogically Promiscuous

I am not sure what the narrative is supposed to be here. The guy is a nutter and killed two members of an officer's family. He is at large and needs to be stopped now. That's pretty much the report.

And the local news has posted his entire screed for all to see. Can you clarify what you mean?

Oh I'm 100% in the "He's a nut; end of story" category...

I'm just pointing out how the media will hypocritically omit these parts of his manifesto...

Now SHOULD his political ramblings be omitted?...That's arguable...

But had these been the words of a Tea Party member, that would NOT be arguable...They'd be the top story on every network and front page on every newspaper...

Remember when the guy shot up the theater in Colorado?...The FIRST thing ABC did was run to the interwebz to see if the guy was a Tea party member...

ABC draws possible Tea Party connection with alleged Aurora shooter

Now if they do that when they think he guy is a Rightie, then they should BE CONSISTENT and show that here when the guy is a Lefty...

And if they DIDN'T do that when they thought the guy was a Rightie, then they should BE CONSISTENT and not do that here when the guy is a Leftie...

That's the issue I'm pointing out...I fully know the guy's a kook irrelevant of whether he's the most Conservative or Liberal who ever lived...

But the media has shown that when the kook is a Conservative, it matters that he's a CONSERVATIVE KOOK, but when it's Lib, it doesn't matter at all and simply chalk him up to being a kook and that's it...

mlurp · #9 (**permalink**) 02-07-2013, 03:36 PM

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Originally Posted by saltwn

people are going nutz all over the place. wt heck?

Just the completion of the Dumbing Down of America salty.

Once all the nut jobs like this guy and the gangs, all of them are gone we might just start crawling back to life.

There might just be one thing keeping us from it. And that is my secrete which I will not share.

Idealogically Promiscuous · #10 (**permalink**) 02-07-2013, 03:41 PM

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Originally Posted by mlurp

There might just be one thing keeping us from it. And that is my secrete which I will not share.

Well, I am sure I speak for the entire forum when I say we are most thankful that you are not sharing your "secrete" with all of us. And if you do, just be kind and use protection.

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