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A 15-year-old honors student who performed at Obama's inaugural events in Washington D.C. last week has been fatally shot in a park just blocks from the president's Chicago home.

Hadiya Pendleton had been let out early from school on Tuesday after an exam and was huddling under a canopy in a South Side park to escape the rain when she was shot in the back.

A witness said around 10 students in the park scattered when a man opened fire. Hadiya and another teen collapsed a block away in front of one of the upscale homes lining Oakenwalk Avenue.

The tragedy comes days after Obama, whose Chicago home is only a mile from the murder scene, announced plans to ban assault weapons as part of a drastic overhaul of gun laws.

Read more: Hadiya Pendleton: Honors student, 15, who performed at Obama's inaugural events shot dead in Chicago | Mail Online
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Gun control sure is working in Chicago. They look to have successfully ensured the control of guns is handed over to the criminals.
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If gun control works so well shouldn't Chicago be the safest city in the country?
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If I were to point out that an abortion occurred during a time before Roe v Wade was in place, would that somehow prove something?


Does the significance of that question upon the flawed logic that is displayed in this thread mean anything to you?

No?

Then excuse me for interrupting your day with logic.
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If I were to point out that an abortion occurred during a time before Roe v Wade was in place, would that somehow prove something?


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Show the anti-gun weenies in Washington that tidbit of report logic.
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If I were to point out that an abortion occurred during a time before Roe v Wade was in place, would that somehow prove something?


Does the significance of that question upon the flawed logic that is displayed in this thread mean anything to you?

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Then excuse me for interrupting your day with logic.
Your attempt at an abortion analogy shows that people disobey the law. An appropriate anaology would be often heard asssertion that if abortions were restricted or made illegal it would force women to get them from back alley criminals. Likewise if guns are restricted too severly or banned criminals will be empowdred.

Sorry to interrupt the world of invalid analogies.
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Your attempt at an abortion analogy shows that people disobey the law.
Very good!

But then, as I frequently see, people avoid the original analogy and simply try to provide a different one that in no way invalidates the original point...
Proposing a different analogy does not necessarily invalidate the original.


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An appropriate anaology would be often heard asssertion that if abortions were restricted or made illegal it would force women to get them from back alley criminals. Likewise if guns are restricted too severly or banned criminals will be empowdred.
I know this is basically talking to the wall, but realistically nobody is talking about "banning" guns.
And "restricted too severely" isn't realistically an issue either...

There's a phrase about bringing a knife to a gun fight.
There is no phrase about bringing a 10 clip gun to a 50 clip gun fight.
If you've got a guy trying to rob you with a gun, is that guy going to be anymore intimidated between having an "assault weapon" on his victim, or a revolver?

You're posing a false scenario.
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A witness said around 10 students in the park scattered when a man opened fire. Hadiya and another teen collapsed a block away in front of one of the upscale homes lining Oakenwalk Avenue.
It looks like she was a victim of random bad fortune.
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I don't believe it happened. Chicago has very mean and very strict no nonsense gun control laws that make even the Mexican cartel guys crap their panties.
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I think I would rather be shot dead than be forced to live in Chicago.
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I don't believe it happened. Chicago has very mean and very strict no nonsense gun control laws that make even the Mexican cartel guys crap their panties.
maexican cartels get their guns via the good ol NRA.
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