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01-04-2013, 07:48 AM
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3 NYPD officers shot in one-hour span in separate incidents
3 NYPD officers shot in one-hour span in separate incidents | Fox News
Published January 04, 2013 Associated Press Quote:
Oh. Wait a minute. . . Gun laws in New York - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
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01-04-2013, 09:18 AM
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Re: 3 NYPD officers shot in one-hour span in separate incidents
I don't believe it. New York is one of the safest cities in the world because of its TOUGH anti-gun laws./sarcasm mode
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01-04-2013, 09:53 AM
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Re: 3 NYPD officers shot in one-hour span in separate incidents
There is no logic in that type of pro-gun commentary...
We have drunk driving laws. A person is killed every half hour due to drunk driving. Obviously, since we have outlawed drunk driving, only "outlaws" will drive drunk... Does that mean it would be intelligent to revoke drunk driving laws? 
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01-04-2013, 10:05 AM
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01-04-2013, 10:05 AM
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What do you mean revoke drunk driving laws? Is that the same thing as revoking wanton shooting laws? With one thousand laws or no laws, are you some type of idiot that needs to be reminded that it is not any good for society if you turn into a lunatic who starts shooting at innocent people?
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01-04-2013, 10:16 AM
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It's an ANALOGY. People talk about gun bans, which would be analogous to bans on drunk driving. People spout "If we ban guns, then only outlaws will have guns". It's a stupid argument. People point to people getting killed with guns in New York like it proves something. It doesn't. By the same logic, we could get an area and lower the BAC law to .06 and STILL find drunk driving. Doesn't mean we should revoke drunk driving laws. To spell it out for you, the capability for a law to be broken DOES NOT invalidate that law. We understand that on a LONG list of other subjects. When it comes to gun control? Quote:
I tried to dumb it down for you above. If you can't get it that time, ask an intelligent question demonstrating where you're having difficulty... Quote:
Are you really thinking the point is to try to STOP violence? (The answer to that should be No) The point is to REDUCE the number of deaths. 
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01-04-2013, 10:21 AM
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Would passing a one car a month law prevent drunk driving? Would banning cars with high capacity gas tanks prevent drunk driving?
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01-04-2013, 10:25 AM
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Your feeble attempt at condescending will decidedly be ignored.  Read post number 7 above and refine your analogies.
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01-04-2013, 10:28 AM
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01-04-2013, 10:32 AM
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I would agree that "one gun a month" laws would be ineffective. As for "high capacity gas tanks", it's not the size of the gas tank that poses a problem so the "analogy" attempt is wasted. It's the BAC. And YES. If we were to have a way to limit people's BAC absolutely before they could drive, that WOULD reduce drunk driving deaths. Quote:
Quite frankly, I think you need to be less concerned over whether YOU can be convinced, and more concerned with whether or not your argument is convincing to others... Quote:
Saying that you don't want to acknowledge the analogy "PERIOD!" certainly disproves my point.... 
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