US military deaths in Afghanistan hit 2,000 - thenews.com.pk
Oct 1, 2012

Well, I guess that "Hope and Change" wasn't such a good war strategy after all!

Psst! Obama! War is about killing and destruction, not silly words, nor "outreaches," nor, as in Iraq, aborting military occupations while the people you deposed are still in their prime and the culture you hopped to replace is still strong and active, these are aspects of Reality.

Isn't it amusing too, that we get this story from the foreign, press. It's almost like our own mainstream media is covering for somebody. Go figure!

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I will be pleased when all our brave men and women are home safe.

I would caution those who are quick to blame any president for these deaths or use them as a political tool. There are many venues to express your dislike for a CiC. This is not one of them.

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My main critique here was of the press coverage, Bush versus Obama.

That said. . .

Of course we blame Presidents for deaths in wars, as well as for their war policies and oversight of them. That may not be fair, but it's why we don't suspend elections during conflicts. And we're not alone. I think that few Americans realize the Winston Churchill was voted out of office before the end of WWII, a fact that is nearly inconceivable to us in America today.

My main criticism of both Bush and Obama, as well as a number of other modern Presidents, is that they conduct war strategy and policy as an abstract academic and political exercise rather than as an expression of most of the viler Human qualities as well a s a small number of the nobler.

As an example, I'll use the occupation in Iraq. Americans in general, and the presidents in particular were in a great hurry to end the occupation and turn the government of Iraq over to the Iraqis.

Now that sounds laudable, but it is actually an abandonment of responsibility and complicity in the deaths and destruction to follow. The presidents behaved as though children had been spanked and would now behave in a desirable manner.

Instead, many of the nefarious people who had been in power, remembered vividly having been in power, and had shown that murder was a trivial concern for them in the pursuit of power are still there, and many probably most are still in the prime of life, free to conspire to return to the summit of authority.

Meanwhile, those individuals who might have valued freedom and the rule of humane law, find themselves unprotected, unmentored, and exposed in a culture where such concepts are alien, and often reviled.

Again, the presidents treated this as an academic exercise, or worse, a game, where some event, move argument or the simple dictates of a clock signal stable victory.

Real life and Human Nature operate on vastly different principles.

It took most of a lifetime to essentially expunge Nazism and virulent nationalism from Germany, and similar mindsets from japan after the Second World War.

In effect, the war continued after 1945 by more humane means. The generation that had supported the aggressions of those countries was still treated as something of an enemy, cowed but not completely defeated.

And they were killed, almost utterly wiped out. The weapon though was not bullets, explosives, or nuclear weapons, but a far more lethal one -- old age.

During the lengthy process, the Occupation stayed in place and exerted intense, though not necessarily unpleasant pressure on the younger generations. The success of the approach can be seen in the distorted, often bizarre and hugely exaggerated reflections of American culture so popular in Japan.

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"Sometimes, the source of the beautiful dawning light that drives back the darkness, is your house burning"

Bull****! The media had a death watch going when Bush was president and gleefully, yes I said gleefully, reported the numbers daily. obama even used those numbers to beat Bush over the head. The number of dead soldiers in Afghanistan has reach 2000, most of these under obama and many of them have been at the hand of Afghan troops that we are suppose to be training. We hear nothing from Karsai about this, no apology or even if he is doing anything about it. obama is silent too for the most part.

This is obama's war and the buck stops at his desk, like it or not, I don't give a damn.

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Where's Code Pink and all the rest of the anti-war crowd?? We used to have massive protests about war but now all those voices have been silent. Is war only bad when there's a Rep. in the White House??

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Leftists and very small children don't seem to be able to understand that the Government isn't there to "fix" the economy, anymore than a tick is there to fix your dog.~Oftencold

The "he did it too" and "two wrongs make a right" argument fails ten out of ten times.

One must lead by example, and not how everyone else acts.

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So lies of omission are OK with you?

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A gun in the hands of a free man frightens and angers the autocrat, not because he fears the power of the gun, but, rather, the spirit of the man who holds it.

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Every life is precious but I am glad we have at least found a way to keep from killing as many youngsters as we used to.

58,209 Vietnam

405,399 WWII

625,000 -Civil War - 599 per day- and almost 2% of the population.

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You answered your own question there...

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They have moved on to the "war on vaginas"

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