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Sometimes rules are made to be broken.
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![]() But other firefighters DID hear the story. That top firefighter official? People are quick to disregard his EXPERIENCE in favor of jumping on the band-wagon of this other guy who risked BOTH of their lives, for whom his strategy worked out THIS time... ![]() What if next time his exit becomes blocked... Burning building? Things don't collapse or anything do they. Fires don't sprout up where they previously weren't present, do they... There's a reason for the rules. Don't be so quick to disregard them.
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Exactly. End of story.
The man is a hero and I thank him for risking his life and going over and beyond his duties by giving his overtime check to this woman to help her. We need more people like this in the world.
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Do me a favor...
If you're not going to respond to what I'm saying, then don't bother to pretend you are... ![]() The guy's actions worked out this time. Next time, he could be endangering himself, the person he is trying to save, and his fellow fire-fighters who will have to risk more to save both of them. There's a reason that the rules exist in these scenarios. Hopefully he'll learn before it comes to that.
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Better yet, lead a protest outside his home and voice your displeasure for his actions. I am sure you will have a couple people follow you. Personally, instead of attacking this man, I will simply call him a hero and call it a day.
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I'm not saying he isn't a hero. I'm not attacking the man. Surely even you can comprehend the difference between recognizing a mistake is made and an attack. ![]() Do you think acknowledging a mistake was made automatically equates to an attack? To change tactics, do you think the top firefighter official who criticized him knew all the details? Do you think the people who train firefighters and make these policies for them to follow do so because they don't care about saving people?
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I recognize the reason for the rule. And you are right; it is a very sensible rule. But, sometimes, one has to make a judgement call to follow the rule or do what seems best. Since we were not there, we do not know how close the woman was to not breathing at all. It would not have done her much good to be carried out dead.
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You'd be surprised all of the stupid rules, laws, and regulations that surround emergency workers. The fact that he's 'catching heat' for what he did doesn't surprise me. When I was doing my EMT training and they were going over some of these rules that we had, we all threw out these "what if" scenarios and asked, "what do we do if...". In each scenario, it was like the situation in the OP where saving someone's life would be violating a rule or regulation.
Our instructor always had the same answer: Err on the side of saving the person's life. He had multiple reasons for that. 1) We'd be able to live with ourselves. 2) The law would go easier on us if we were sincerely trying to save someone's life, even if we did break a law or regulation, etc in the act of doing it, and 3) We'd be less likely to lose a lawsuit.
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