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So whataya think? Does this guy get charged? Surely not in Texas.

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A father who said he saw a man molesting his 4-year-old daughter behind a barn in Lavaca County apparently beat the man to death Saturday afternoon, officials said.

The death occurred about 3:45 p.m. at a horse barn along County Road 302 near Shiner, about 127 miles west of Houston, said Lavaca County Sheriff Micah Harmon.

Harmon said the victim, a 47-year-old Gonzales man, died at the scene. His name has not been released because his next of kin has not yet been notified of the death.

No arrests have been made in the case. Harmon said a grand jury will probably determine what, if any charges, will be filed.

Harmon said the father and daughter were at their barn with several other people to groom and care for horses there. The victim came with some of the other people, but was not well-known, if all, to the father and child.

The group later heard the girl screaming behind the barn, Harmon said. Her father ran to see what was wrong and said he saw the man allegedly sexually assaulting the child. While pulling the man away from the girl, he hit the man several times in the head, Harmon said.

The girl was taken to DeTar hospital in Victoria to be evaluated and to have tests done to determine if a sexual assault occurred. She was released later.

The Travis County Medical Examiner’s Office is expected to perform an autopsy on the victim to determine what caused his death.
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I will have a more logical and educated opinion on whether or not the father will be charged when I see the final reports regarding if the girl was sexually assaulted and the cause of death to the man.
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I think he'll be charged, but charged with what will be determined by whether or not the girl's examination reveals signs of sexual trauma, and/or if people other than the father heard the girl screaming and/or if people other than the father witnessed anything.
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Charged?? How about a "World's Greatest Daddy" award?? In the same situation, my response would have been the same. The only difference would have been that they would have never found his body. The guy would have been incapacitated and silenced and then after my daughter was taken care of, he would have been buried in the desert with a note nailed to his head explaining that he was a child molestor caught in the act and got his just desserts.
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The group later heard the girl screaming behind the barn, Harmon said. Her father ran to see what was wrong
The "group" heard the screaming but ONLY the father ran?...That just seems odd to me...I would think the group would come runnin'...Possible, but odd...

I would definitely need to hear from "the group" for validation...
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It's going to be interesting... I look forward to the results of the investigation. That will better tell us what laws were broken.
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Charged?? How about a "World's Greatest Daddy" award?? In the same situation, my response would have been the same. The only difference would have been that they would have never found his body. The guy would have been incapacitated and silenced and then after my daughter was taken care of, he would have been buried in the desert with a note nailed to his head explaining that he was a child molestor caught in the act and got his just desserts.
I don't think that anyone would argue differently IF the man was actually assaulting the girl. The problem is proving THAT. Even if they do prove that, he may still be charged with something lesser.
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Looks like it should be a non-issue.

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Investigators are looking into the killing, which may be justified under Texas’ self-defense and “defense of person” laws. Similar to Florida’s Stand Your Ground law, Texas law allows the use of deadly force against anyone “committing or attempting to commit … sexual assault,” among other crimes.

In Texas, a person who uses deadly force in self-defense or in defense of another cannot have provoked the person against whom the deadly force was used, and cannot have been committing a crime at the time. Neither seem to apply to the Texas dad’s defense-of-daughter killing.

“You have a right to defend your daughter,” the sheriff told CNN. After an investigation is complete, a grand jury will decide whether to press charges, the sheriff said.
TX Dad Kills Man for Sex Assault on Daughter | Reuters
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The "group" heard the screaming but ONLY the father ran?...That just seems odd to me...I would think the group would come runnin'...Possible, but odd...

I would definitely need to hear from "the group" for validation...
If the group did actually hear the girl screaming, I'd gather he won't be charged. However, I too am skeptical about an entire group of people hearing someone scream and only ONE person going to help. (especially in a somewhat private, family situation such as this was)
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TX Dad Kills Man for Sex Assault on Daughter | Reuters
Sounds reasonable to me. Take your daughter and get some ice cream.
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