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Since all of our discussions here are about non official proceedings, this is as viable a story as the one where Zimmerman is supposed to be on the bottom getting pummeled. If the Feds or whoever have technicians (and I'd bet they are using everything available) they may very well come to the same conclusion as these two experts. Like you I can only go with what I read. I was leaning Zimmerman was not culpable. But this could put a different light on matters if true.
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Right? LOL

Every time I see that stupid photo of Traythug at 11, it just pisses me off even more. Being lied to is insulting.
It's insulting to me that me that the lib media would try to play me in that manner. To say its shocking to me how easily that the general public is played by the media is an understatement.
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haha ...been a fan of hers for a long time. She reminds me a lot of my own mom who was not much on mincing words (at least around the family).

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Every time I see that stupid photo of Traythug at 11, it just pisses me off even more. Being lied to is insulting.
I saw this "pundit" from MSNBC complaining about how the right was manipulating the information in this case. He found this picture of a phoney Trayvon some minor financial journal had been tricked into using.

What he didn't do though, was show you the actual pictures of a real , Trayvon with gold capped teeth, or the one showing his 6 foot three frame standing next to a girlfriend. The one's you can see here...

Misconceptions in the Trayvon Martin Case

He didn't mention the tatooed Trayvon bragging about being a "Thug" on his Facebook page, or his screen name of "@NO_LIMIT_NIGGA" on Twitter or talk about his three suspensions from school, one of which he was caught with a screwdriver, and jewelry that didn't belong to him.

That's the guy actual witnesses saw standing over the chubby older Zimmerman in the dark, behind the houses. That's the guy the left now wants you to believe was screaming for help, based on the evidence of two previously unknown nobodies they're now calling experts, who compared screams in the distance heard over a phone to a manipulated audio of a 911 call. And you are now told they - with their dodgy new technology, and the program one of them downloaded from the internet, not the actual witnesses, know who was on the bottom that night.

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I saw this "pundit" from MSNBC complaining about how the right was manipulating the information in this case. He found this picture of a phoney Trayvon some minor financial journal had been tricked into using.

What he didn't do though, was show you the actual pictures of a real , Trayvon with gold capped teeth, or the one showing his 6 foot three frame standing next to a girlfriend. The one's you can see here...

Misconceptions in the Trayvon Martin Case

He didn't mention the tatooed Trayvon bragging about being a "Thug" on his Facebook page, or his screen name of "@NO_LIMIT_NIGGA" on Twitter or talk about his three suspensions from school, one of which he was caught with a screwdriver, and jewelry that didn't belong to him.

That's the guy actual witnesses saw standing over the chubby older Zimmerman in the dark, behind the houses. That's the guy the left now wants you to believe was screaming for help, based on the evidence of two previously unknown nobodies they're now calling experts, who compared screams in the distance heard over a phone to a manipulated audio of a 911 call. And you are now told they - with their dodgy new technology, and the program one of them downloaded from the internet, not the actual witnesses, know who was on the bottom that night.

1. The Trayvon with the gold teeth was not Trayvon Martin.

2. No one has said the saw Trayvon Martin standing over Zimmerman. A witness saw Trayvon on top of Zimmerman on the ground.

You have two established facts wrong. Want to go for a few more?
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1. The Trayvon with the gold teeth was not Trayvon Martin.

2. No one has said the saw Trayvon Martin standing over Zimmerman. A witness saw Trayvon on top of Zimmerman on the ground.

You have two established facts wrong. Want to go for a few more?
So says you, and until you show me different it's based on absolutely nothing.

The gold teeth pic - this one...l



comes from MySpace, and Twitter accounts alleged to be owned by Trayvon Martin. They have since been taken down.

"Over top", or "on top" doesn't matter. Same thing. But if you insist on details here's where that comes from...

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The report, leaked to the Orlando Sentinel and ABC News and based on anonymous sources, supports accounts from George Zimmerman's allies that he acted in self-defense when he shot dead the 17-year-old one month ago in Sanford Florida.

The embattled Sanford Police Department, while condemning the leak, confirmed that the story was consistent with information private to the State Attorney's office, which is currently considering whether to file charges against Zimmerman.

The police account is also based mostly on Zimmerman's own words to officers after they arrived at the gated community February 26, but it is the most complete picture of his side of the shooting that has been released publicly.

As the Orland Sentinel reports, Zimmerman got out of his car and followed Trayvon as he walked back to the home of his father's girlfriend after picking up snacks at a local convenience store.

Zimmerman called 911 to report a suspicious black teenager who looked like he might be on drugs.

As he walked after the teen, the police dispatcher told Zimmerman he didn't need to keep following.

A minute passes and police don't know what happens.

Then, according to Zimmerman, Trayvon approached him from behind and they 'exchanged words.'

Trayvon asked Zimmerman if he had a problem. Zimmerman said, 'no.'

Then, according to Zimmerman, Trayvon said, 'Well now you do,' and unexpectedly punched Zimmerman in the face, knocking him to the ground.

Trayvon, 6-foot-3 and 140 pound, then reportedly climbed on top of the 250-pound Zimmerman and bashed his head into the sidewalk several times.

One unidentified witness, who did not see the shooting, said he saw a younger man on top of an older man and the older man was screaming for help.

Police say the cries that witnesses reported, which Trayvon's family say were coming from the teen, are actually likely from Zimmerman.

According to police reports and accounts given by Zimmerman's lawyer, Craig Sooner, the 28-year-old's nose was bloody or broken, his lip was bleeding and he had a bloody gash on the back of his head.
Read more: Trayvon Martin case: He was suspended three times and caught with 'burglary tool' | Mail Online

In fact if you'd like to try something uncommon to those of the leftie variety, and actually read the article they'll tell you where all this info comes from. You'll also find some other juicy details, and even some stuff that supports the version of the story you and Mikeyy would prefer to believe.

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So says you, and until you show me different it's based on absolutely nothing.

The gold teeth pic - this one...l



comes from MySpace, and Twitter accounts alleged to be owned by Trayvon Martin. They have since been taken down.

"Over top", or "on top" doesn't matter. Same thing. But if you insist on details here's where that comes from...



Read more: Trayvon Martin case: He was suspended three times and caught with 'burglary tool' | Mail Online

In fact if you'd like to try something uncommon to those of the leftie variety, and actually read the article linked there from the UK's Daily Mail they'll tell you where all this info comes from. You'll also find some other juicy details, and even some stuff that supports the version of the story you and Mikeyy would prefer to believe.
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One unidentified witness, who did not see the shooting, said he saw a younger man on top of an older man and the older man was screaming for help.

That is from the you quoted. You will note, if you actually read it, that the witness did not sat Martin was "standing over" Zimmerman as you asserted in Post number 24 which I was replying to.

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I saw this "pundit" from MSNBC complaining about how the right was manipulating the information in this case. He found this picture of a phoney Trayvon some minor financial journal had been tricked into using.

What he didn't do though, was show you the actual pictures of a real , Trayvon with gold capped teeth, or the one showing his 6 foot three frame standing next to a girlfriend. The one's you can see here...

Misconceptions in the Trayvon Martin Case

He didn't mention the tatooed Trayvon bragging about being a "Thug" on his Facebook page, or his screen name of "@NO_LIMIT_NIGGA" on Twitter or talk about his three suspensions from school, one of which he was caught with a screwdriver, and jewelry that didn't belong to him.

That's the guy actual witnesses saw standing over the chubby older Zimmerman in the dark, behind the houses. That's the guy the left now wants you to believe was screaming for help, based on the evidence of two previously unknown nobodies they're now calling experts, who compared screams in the distance heard over a phone to a manipulated audio of a 911 call. And you are now told they - with their dodgy new technology, and the program one of them downloaded from the internet, not the actual witnesses, know who was on the bottom that night.

Evidently the gold teeth photo is real. I had it confused with the picture of another kid flipping off the camera which originally was run side-by-side with the one you cited.

Bu so what? The kid had gold teeth and took a pick with his face too close to the camera.

How does this justify trashing him and calling him a hood?
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Evidently the gold teeth photo is real. I had it confused with the picture of another kid flipping off the camera which originally was run side-by-side with the one you cited.

Bu so what? The kid had gold teeth and took a pick with his face too close to the camera.

How does this justify trashing him and calling him a hood?
I mentioned the fake pic of the kid flashing gang scenes above. MSNBC wants to make that the story.

Here's why the actual story of the cocky six foot three kid with the tattoos, and the Mike Tyson gold capped teeth who likes to call himself "Nigga", and "Thug" is relevant. That's who neighborhood watch captain George Zimmerman ran into in the darkened back alley of the complex he watched. That's who was over top him bashing his head into the pavement, and, if you can believe Zimmerman, was screaming death threats. It wasn't that baby faced kid from years ago, you see in the MSNBC pics. This isn't really about iced tea and skittles. With the real Trayvon Martin it becomes more likely it was Zimmerman lying on the ground bleeding and screaming, and it's not too difficult to believe he feared for his life.
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That is from the you quoted. You will note, if you actually read it, that the witness did not sat Martin was "standing over" Zimmerman as you asserted in Post number 24 which I was replying to.



Evidently the gold teeth photo is real. I had it confused with the picture of another kid flipping off the camera which originally was run side-by-side with the one you cited.

Bu so what? The kid had gold teeth and took a pick with his face too close to the camera.

How does this justify trashing him and calling him a hood?
Why was Martin in the neighborhood? Because he was suspended from school for the THIRD TIME. Who cares if he was caught with a pot pipe, burglar tools and stolen jewelry he was a good child as his mouth filled with gangsta style gold teeth shows.

The kid was a wannabe gangsta with a documented history of getting into trouble at school for the kind of things that would have gotten him a trip to jail in the less forgiving outside world. Does that mean he deserved to get shot? Nope. But it means he was engaged in a pattern of actvity that not just condoned but required the kind of assault Zimmerman alleges.
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If you imagine the girl below is about the size of George Zimmerman (maybe slightly smaller), add attitude, a disposition to criminality, and an appreciation of gang culture to the guy (Martin) towering above her, you get a better idea of who the Hispanic neighborhood watch captain met in the darkened rear of the complex he watched over.

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