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The Sharia Court of Pennsylvania — the Transcript - By Andrew C. McCarthy - The Corner - National Review Online
February 24, 2012 2:59 P.M



This article may be read for smug amusement by the members currently living in Reality, though it may cause some to burst a blood vessel.

I look forward to the amusing contortions of our Leftist Brethren, who may invent whole knew forms of geometry as they contort themselves with attempts to deny that this is a clear violation of their precious, though largely invented, concept of the separation 'twixt religion and state.

It should be attended closely by those who still refuse to grasp the nature of Islam, especially the Pseudo-Athiests who so often foolishly believe themselves to be threatened by cookie-baking Protestants, Matzoh bearing Jews, or Bingo addicted Catholics rather than Jihadis seeking an Eternal Priapism among seventy two Maidens of Indestructible Virginity.

We see here a State Judge invoking Sharia in an obscure State named "Pennsylvania", to absolve a Mohammedan, clearly seen in video evidence attacking a self proclaimed Atheist for mocking the "Prophet" Mohammad.

Golly gee willakers! Who could have seen that coming?

Well, me for one and other people living in the ever less densely populated Land of Reality. With our eyes closed. Through seventeen feet of granite. At midnight. At the bottom of a coal mine. With our backs turned.

As usual, Conservative sources have provided ample record and evidence, including video, audio and court transcript. Funny thing though. It is rather hard to find extensive domestic coverage of this abomination. It seems to be covered more extensively in the Press in Europe.

Go figure!

Who'd have seen that coming! Well, me for one and other people living in the ever less densely populated Land of Reality. With our eyes closed. Through seventeen feet of granite, et cetera.

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[Judge:] I don’t think you’re aware, sir, there’s a big difference between how Americans practice Christianity – uh, I understand you’re an atheist. But, see, Islam is not just a religion, it’s their culture, their culture. It’s their very essence, their very being. They pray five times a day towards Mecca. To be a good Muslim, before you die, you have to make a pilgrimage to Mecca unless you are otherwise told you cannot because you are too ill, too elderly, whatever. But you must make the attempt.

Their greetings, “Salaam alaikum,” “Alaikum wa-salaam,” “May God be with you.” Whenever — it is very common — their language, when they’re speaking to each other, it’s very common for them to say, uh, “Allah willing, this will happen.” It is — they are so immersed in it.

Then what you have done is you’ve completely trashed their essence, their being. They find it very, very, very offensive. I’m a Muslim, I find it offensive. F’Im a Muslim, I’d find it offensive. [Unintelligible] aside was very offensive.

But you have that right, but you’re way outside your bounds on First Amendment rights.
(The strikeout occurs in the article because there had been some doubt over exactly what the judge said at that point. The currently favored interpretation was substituted for the stricken line.)

Note: I am not placing this in the Opinion and Editorial section because my chief thrust is to address the upper portion of the article which is a recitation of facts and the transcript. I will defend this choice vigorously.


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COMMENTARY | Jonathon Turley, a law professor at George Washington University, reports on a disturbing case in which a state judge in Pennsylvania threw out an assault case involving a Muslim attacking an atheist for insulting the Prophet Muhammad.

Judge Mark Martin, an Iraq war veteran and a convert to Islam, threw the case out in what appears to be an invocation of Sharia law.

The incident occurred at the Mechanicsburg, Pa., Halloween parade where Ernie Perce, an atheist activist, marched as a zombie Muhammad. Talaag Elbayomy, a Muslim, attacked Perce, and he was arrested by police.

Judge Martin threw the case out on the grounds that Elbayomy was obligated to attack Perce because of his culture and religion. Judge Martin stated that the First Amendment of the Constitution does not permit people to provoke other people. He also called Perce, the plaintiff in the case, a "doofus." In effect, Perce was the perpetrator of the assault, in Judge Martin's view, and Elbayomy the innocent. The Sharia law that the Muslim attacker followed trumped the First Amendment.

Words almost fail.

The Washington Post recently reported on an appeals court decision to maintain an injunction to stop the implementation of an amendment to the Oklahoma state constitution that bans the use of Sharia law in state courts. The excuse the court gave was that there was no documented case of Sharia law being invoked in an American court. Judge Martin would seem to have provided that example, which should provide fodder for the argument as the case goes through the federal courts.

The text of the First Amendment could not be clearer. "Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof-" It does not say "unless somebody, especially a Muslim, is angered." Indeed Judge Martin specifically decided to respect the establishment of a religion, in this case Islam.

That Judge Martin should be removed from the bench and severely sanctioned goes almost without saying. He clearly had no business hearing the case in the first place, since he seems to carry an emotional bias. He also needs to retake a constitutional law course. Otherwise, a real can of worms has been opened up, permitting violence against people exercising free speech.

It should be noted that another atheist, dressed as a Zombie Pope, was marching beside the Zombie Muhammad. No outraged Catholics attacked him.

Penn Judge: Muslims Allowed to Attack People for Insulting Mohammad - Yahoo! News


Do they still Tar and Feather in PA?

That Judge is a perfect Candidate!
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The Atheists of Central Pennsylvania decided to walk in the Mechanicsburg Halloween parade. There was a zombie Pope and a zombie Muhammed. On YouTube, you can catch a scary moment. It's dark and distorted, but a Muslim man comes off the curb extremely offended at Muhammed being depicted in this way.

"He grabbed me, choked me from the back, and spun me around to try to get my sign off that was wrapped around my neck," said Ernie Perce, who donned the costume.

The Muslim man and Perce both called police to report a crime. Both kept walking, and a few blocks down found Sgt. Brian Curtis. He talked to both and came to this conclusion.

"Mr. Perce has the right to do what he did that evening, and the defendant in this case was wrong in confronting him," he said.

Talaag Elbayomy was charged with harassment, but District Judge Mark Martin threw it out after criticizing Perce, the victim, and even calling him a "doofus." The audio is also on YouTube.

Martin, who has done several tours of duty in the Middle East, said Perce would be put to death in those societies for his crime, but Perce wonders why that's relevant in this country.

"He let a man who is Muslim, because of his preference of his culture and his way of life, walk free from an attack," Perce said.
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WTF?
WTF is right? Free speech is still allowed in this country. Just because you are offended doesn't give you the right to assault someone.

So much for following the law...
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The judge is wrong in this case - I wonder if it will be appealed? Free speech means even if it's abhorant, it is still allowed in this country. It sounds as if the one fellow is an immigrant, and hadn't yet realized that. The judge however has no such excuse.
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I thought this was pretty interesting when I posted about it yesterday.
http://www.politicalwrinkles.com/con...ranscript.html

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The judge is wrong in this case - I wonder if it will be appealed? Free speech means even if it's abhorant, it is still allowed in this country. It sounds as if the one fellow is an immigrant, and hadn't yet realized that. The judge however has no such excuse.
The fellow is an immigrant, and what else? It starts with an "M," . . .
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