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Old 12-19-2011, 09:39 AM
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Obama hasn't been exactly supportive either, so they balance.

They all are hypocritical, every last one of them.

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Well he pushed for an then eventually signed the legislation to end DADT, and he refuses to use the DOJ to defend the indefensible DOMA. Those 2 things right there show me that he is fairly interested in advancing civil liberties for gay people.

That is a far cry from where an Republican is on this issue.

In fact, I find is really shocking that Republicans are STILL on an anti-gay platform. The country is quickly moving past this issue, it would do them a world of good to let it go once and for all.
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Well he pushed for an then eventually signed the legislation to end DADT, and he refuses to use the DOJ to defend the indefensible DOMA. Those 2 things right there show me that he is fairly interested in advancing civil liberties for gay people.

That is a far cry from where an Republican is on this issue.

In fact, I find is really shocking that Republicans are STILL on an anti-gay platform. The country is quickly moving past this issue, it would do them a world of good to let it go once and for all.
Each political party gets their teeth stuck in something, and there is no fighting it. I would prefer they move past it, but I would say most are stuck on it for religious purposes, just my opinion.

I have no issue with what he has done, but not being actually gay or lesbian myself, perhaps I miss some of the finer points. I have been led to believe that the marriage issue is by far the biggest issue, and several friends feel Obama has faile the community by not acting on this.

Still, my reaction is the same: I have virtually no respect for politicians, and see them all as dealing in situational responses, Obama and every other last one of them.
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I have no issue with what he has done, but not being actually gay or lesbian myself, perhaps I miss some of the finer points. I have been led to believe that the marriage issue is by far the biggest issue, and several friends feel Obama has faile the community by not acting on this.
What people miss in the debate is that not only has Obama already come out in full support of marriage equality - twice in 1995 - but his current ambiguous stance is merely a political shield. Not only do his actions speak much louder than his words (DADT, DOMA, HHS regulations, suspect class DoJ argument, etc), but as President he really can't do diddly squat about a state issue like marriage anyway.
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