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It's a very uncomfortable thing to have to consider. You have a woman who was violated in the worst way possible and you have to look her in the eye and ask her how she could be so stupid as to place herself in that situation. I get that. It's just that there are times when the woman has a part in what happened to her and that NEEDS to be recognized. When you have a woman who is a ****-tease and is intentionally screwing with guys and she gets raped as a result, then you lock the rapist in a box and then burn the box. BUT, you also let her know that HER actions had a role in what happened. I wouldn't support allowing this kind of information in a courtroom under any circumstances, but it damn sure better be communicated to the victim that her actions had a role in the rape. Go back to my outrageous example and honestly evaluate whether the woman in question had no role in being raped. Yes, she should have every expectation of being safe, but that world simply isn't the real one.

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Our nation has not always lived up to its ideals, yet those ideals have never ceased to guide us. They expose our flaws, and lead us to mend them. We are the beneficiaries of the work of the generations before us and it is each generation's responsibility to continue that work. - Laura Bush

Leftists and very small children don't seem to be able to understand that the Government isn't there to "fix" the economy, anymore than a tick is there to fix your dog.~Oftencold

Alright dude, you owe me a new keyboard, since you just caused me to vomit all over mine.

I witnessed a victim and cop on the street talking about how the victim had just had his iphone stolen....taken right out of his hand by thugs in a seedy part of San Francisco. It happens a lot these days. I heard the cop telling the guy he should know better than to walk in that neighborhood with his phone out and visible.

Sad isn't it? This guy is not breaking the law using his phone...but he gets reprimanded by the cop.

Just think if we enshrined this kind of thinking into the law like they do in Saudi Arabia. Women get arrested for being too provocative. If they get raped, it is their own fault, because men can not be responsible for themselves.

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Propriety; noun: conformity to established standards of behavior or manner, suitability, rightness, or justice. See "etiquette."

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Maybe that wasn't the best way to put it... If the sentence for rape is 100 years with a fence-post shoved up your butt every morning, then the fact that the woman did something stupid should not diminish that one bit. But we need to recognize that actions have consequences and there are people who simply fail to understand that. If this wasn't rape, you'd most likely be in agreement with me, but rape carries a certian cache that makes it tough to accept that the victim may have had a part in what happened to her. If the issue was that some guy got robbed because he was partying in a BAD neighborhood and was flashing a wad of cash, you'd most likely be saying that he was dumbass and someone needs to yank him straight. But with a rape victim, it's WAY different. You have someone who is HURT in way that passes beyond just the physical and pushes into the mental/spiritual and that brings out the compassion in us like little else does. So what happens is that no one steps up and says that the woman was doing something dumb and that contributed (NOT CAUSED) to what happened.

Here's an analogy: In Oregon, pedestrians have the right of way when they are crossing a street at a crosswalk. Legally, they can walk up to a crosswalk and simply stroll across the street and the cars are required to stop. If someone does that and gets hit by a car, it's the driver's fault. But if no one tells the pedestrian that crossing a street without looking both ways is STUPID, they'll simply do it again.

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Our nation has not always lived up to its ideals, yet those ideals have never ceased to guide us. They expose our flaws, and lead us to mend them. We are the beneficiaries of the work of the generations before us and it is each generation's responsibility to continue that work. - Laura Bush

Leftists and very small children don't seem to be able to understand that the Government isn't there to "fix" the economy, anymore than a tick is there to fix your dog.~Oftencold

Now we're getting somewhere... Do you see that part I bolded, that's the whole issue. There is a connection between the stupid act your daughter is doing and getting hurt. If she wasn't doing the action, she wouldn't have gotten hurt. Let's use my example about the pedestrians in Oregon (because neither of us want to talk about your daughter getting raped): You keep catching your daughter crossing the street without looking both ways. Then one day she gets her foot ran over when she steps into the street without looking and ends up with a broken toe. Would you ignore the fact that she didn't look both ways before crossing??

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Our nation has not always lived up to its ideals, yet those ideals have never ceased to guide us. They expose our flaws, and lead us to mend them. We are the beneficiaries of the work of the generations before us and it is each generation's responsibility to continue that work. - Laura Bush

Leftists and very small children don't seem to be able to understand that the Government isn't there to "fix" the economy, anymore than a tick is there to fix your dog.~Oftencold

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Never annoy a cat. We like our meals hot and bleeding.

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Never annoy a cat. We like our meals hot and bleeding.