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Old 12-11-2011, 12:10 PM
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So what do you do about it?
Nothing can be done about it...but just as we see in Europe and Asia where I have traveled the most, I predict a day when we will have to go through more heightened and inconvenient security measures in our daily lives because the threat of terrorism will be greater in this country and more difficult to contain.
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Old 12-11-2011, 12:17 PM
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It sounds to me like they're foisting the blame on these very small Christian groups for something they decided to do for other reasons.
Don't you mean that it sounds like Florida Family Association is taking credit for something Lowe's decided to do for other reasons.

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LOWES will not advertise again on All-American Muslim.

Supporters' emails to advertisers make a difference.

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SIXTY FIVE (65) companies that Florida Family Association targeted with emails did NOT advertise again during the only two episodes of All-American Muslim that aired this past week. The following companies did not advertise again during the December 4th and December 5th , 2011 episodes of All-American Muslim: 3M (Command, Scotchbrand tape), Airborne Vitamin, Amway, Anheuser Busch Inbev (Select55), Art Instruction Schools, Bamboozles, Bank of America (Cash Rewards), Bare Escentuals, Brother International (Ptouch), Campbell's Soup, Capital One, Church & Dwight (Oxi Clean, Arm & Hammer), City Furniture, Conagra (Hunt's Diced Tomatoes), Corinthian Colleges (Everst411), Cotton, Inc., Cumberland Packing (Sweet'N Low), Dell computers, Diamond Foods (Kettlebrand Chips), Estee Lauder (Clinique), ET Browe (Palmer's Cocoa butter), Gap, General Motors (Chevy Runs Deep), Good Year, Green Mountain Coffee, Guthy Renker (Proactiv), Hershey kisses, Home Depot, Honda North America, HTC Phones, Ikea, JC Penney, JP Morgan Chase (Chase Sapphire), Kayak.com, Kellogg (Special K), Koa Brands (John Frieda), Leapfrog Enterprise (Leapster Explorer), Mars (Dove Chocolate), McDonald's, Nationwide Insurance, News Corp (We bought a zoo movie), Nintendo (Mariokartz.com), Novartis (Theraflu), Old Navy, Pernod Ricard (Kahlua), Petsmart, Pier One, Pfizer (Centrum vitamin), Procter & Gamble (Align Probiotic, Crest, Febreze, Mr. Clean Magic Eraser, Pur, Tide), Progressive Insurance, Prudential Financial, Radio Shack, Ruth's Chris Steakhouse, SC Johnson (Drano, Glade, Scrubbing Bubbles), Sears , Signet (Kay Jewelers), Sonic Drive-ins, Subaru, THQ (uDraw), T-Mobil, Toyota (Camry), Volkswagen, Vtech (Mobi Go, V Reader), Wal-Mart and Whirlpool (Maytag).

Florida Family Association has not experienced this strong of a response on any other issue during the past 23 years.

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Old 12-11-2011, 12:34 PM
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Now that is a dumb comment and I am surprised you want to pretend to be ignorant of what I said for partisan reasons. Do you think what happened to the Jews started with 6 million of them being killed. No it started when people turned their heads to the injustice directed towards them because of their religion. Apparently this is beyond your comprehension and you will only notice when 6 million Muslims die.
So it's OK to compare the US to Nazi Germany? I think you lack perspective.

Perspective through the looking glass of history.

It's nothing close and you know it.
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Perspective through the looking glass of history.
Hence the expression, "Those who do not remember history are destined to repeat it."
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How many Muslims are peaceful and how many are not? Do you know? It is the fastest growing religion in the world. Does that scare you?
There is not a monkey anywhere or a fast-growing number of monkeys that scares me in the slightest. As to the Muslims who are peaceful, I prefer to see them as silent, when it comes to them shouting down their non-existent, fanatical demagogues, who have, through their own manipulation and that of other sycophants, established themselves as actual "leaders" in a belief system that calls for no man standing between God and believer.
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So it's OK to compare the US to Nazi Germany? I think you lack perspective.

Perspective through the looking glass of history.

It's nothing close and you know it.
You purposfully miss the point. I'll bet there were Germans who acted the same way as you when people were being discriminated against in Germany. How did those Japanese Americans end up in camps? Any ideas? I won't bother making the point if all you are going to do is ignore it. I will share these words although they will no doubt be ignored by you two. Maybe you have heard of Elie Wiesel

Elie Wiesel on Indifference
Indifference, to me, is the epitome of evil.

The opposite of love is not hate, it's indifference.

Because of indifference, one dies before one actually dies.

Our obligation is to give meaning to life and in doing so to overcome the passive, indifferent life.

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I swore never to be silent whenever and wherever human beings endure suffering and humiliation. We must always take sides. Neutrality helps the oppressor, never the victim. Silence encourages the tormentor, never the tormented.

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You purposfully miss the point. I'll bet there were Germans who acted the same way as you when people were being discriminated against in Germany. How did those Japanese Americans end up in camps? Any ideas? I won't bother making the point if all you are going to do is ignore it. I will share these words although they will no doubt be ignored by you two. Maybe you have heard of Elie Wiesel.
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No human race is superior; no religious faith is inferior. All collective judgments are wrong. Only racists make them.
I disagree.

Any religious faith is inferior that calls for cruelty to infidels and apostates.
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I disagree.

Any religious faith is inferior that calls for cruelty to infidels and apostates.
Boy you just completely missed the point and do exactly what he was speaking about.
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Boy you just completely missed the point and do exactly what he was speaking about.
This pseudo performance of point snatching that I perceive here on your part is of no concern regarding my opinion of Elie's quote on religious inferiority. I do not wish to take points from someone who has a different outlook on a certain cult or belief or religion. It is pointless.
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To Traditionalists though, they are vile revisionists. Westernized Muslims tend to be more relaxed about a number of things. In the East, in some sects things like music are forbidden to the faithful.

However, the very conservative elements of Islam also tend to embrace things like killing people they deem to be offensive. Remember the Muslim cartoon incidents? Theo van Gogh? I imagine that most companies don't want to even remotely attract that sort of attention.
Yes to a sect of shiite who are extreme as in Salem witch trials

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Jews weren't traveling the world mass murdering people.


No people are terrorists. That they are Muslim and even use the religion to promote hate is nothing new in the serial killer genre.
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