Political Wrinkles  

Go Back   Political Wrinkles > General Forum > News & Current Events
Register FAQDonate PW Store PW Trivia Members List Calendar Search Today's Posts Mark Forums Read

News & Current Events Discuss Israel refuses to alert US over Iran attack at the General Forum; Israel refuses to alert US over Iran attack ISRAEL has refused to reassure President Barack Obama that it would warn ...

Reply
 
LinkBack Thread Tools Display Modes
  #1 (permalink)  
Old 11-13-2011, 09:14 AM
Banned
 
Join Date: Oct 2007
Location: PNW
Gender: Male
Posts: 70,513
Thanks: 22,404
Thanked 18,921 Times in 13,936 Posts
Default Israel refuses to alert US over Iran attack

Israel refuses to alert US over Iran attack


ISRAEL has refused to reassure President Barack Obama that it would warn him of a pre-emptive strike on Iran's nuclear infrastructure, raising fears that it may be planning an attack as early as the next northern summer.

The US leader was rebuffed when he demanded private guarantees that a strike would not go ahead without White House notification, suggesting that Israel no longer plans to ''seek Washington's permission'', sources said.

The disclosure, by insiders briefed on a secret meeting between America's most senior defence chief and Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu, comes amid concerns that Iran's progress towards nuclear weapons means Israel has lost hope for a diplomatic solution


Last week, UN weapons inspectors released their most damning report to date into Iran's nuclear activities, saying it appeared to be building a nuclear weapon. It was with that possibility in mind that US Defence Secretary Leon Panetta flew into Israel last month on what was a routine trip.

Officially, his brief was restricted to the Middle East peace process, but the most important part of his mission was a private meeting with Mr Netanyahu and Defence Minister Ehud Barak. Once all but a handful of trusted staff had left the room, Mr Panetta conveyed an urgent message from Mr Obama. The President, Mr Panetta said, wanted an unshakable guarantee that Israel would not carry out a unilateral military strike against Iran's nuclear installations without first seeking Washington's clearance.

The two Israelis were notably evasive in their response, according to sources both in Israel and America.

''They did not suggest that military action was being planned or was imminent, but neither did they give any assurances that Israel would first seek Washington's permission, or even inform the White House in advance that a mission was under way,'' one said.

Alarmed by Mr Netanyahu's noncommittal response, Mr Obama reportedly ordered the US intelligence services to step up monitoring of Israel to glean clues of its intentions.

What those intentions might be remains murky. Over the past fortnight, Israel's press has given every impression that the country is on a war footing, with numerous claims that Mr Netanyahu and Mr Barak are lobbying the cabinet to support the military option.

Two weeks ago, Israel tested a ballistic missile capable of reaching Iran, its first such test since 2008. Shortly before, the Israeli air force took part in NATO exercises in Sardinia. A separate exercise around Tel Aviv tested civilian readiness in the event of a missile strike.

In a sign of the febrility of the public mood, many beach-goers apparently mistook the air raid sirens for an attack and fled in panic for their cars. Likewise, there were similar jitters in Iran on Saturday when a vast explosion at an arms dump outside Tehran shook the city.

Speculation about an imminent Israeli military action has been a regular occurrence over the years, but rarely as fevered as now. Last week, a British official even suggested that an attack could come before Christmas.

But most Israelis believe the difficulty of mounting an operation when winter cloud cover hampers aircraft targeting systems means that if military action is being considered, it will not come before the spring or summer of next year



Read more: Israel refuses to alert US over Iran attack
Reply With Quote
  #2 (permalink)  
Old 11-13-2011, 09:18 AM
1069's Avatar
Bookworm.
 
Join Date: Nov 2009
Posts: 5,073
Thanks: 4,721
Thanked 4,834 Times in 2,602 Posts
Default Re: Israel refuses to alert US over Iran attack

Quote:
Israel refuses to alert US over Iran attack
Why should they feel the need to alert us about anything they plan to do?
We're nothing but their big retarded buddy. They're the brains of the operation. Why should they require our input?
I'm sure they'll "alert" us soon enough, when they need US money and US troops to back up their preemptive actions.
That's the role we've willingly chosen to play in the past; why should it be surprising that they expect us to continue playing it?
Reply With Quote
The Following User Says Thank You to 1069 For This Useful Post:
  #3 (permalink)  
Old 11-13-2011, 09:35 AM
The silenced majority's Avatar
Counselor
 
Join Date: Dec 2009
Location: a lonely island known as Principle.
Gender: Male
Posts: 885
Thanks: 308
Thanked 332 Times in 242 Posts
Default Re: Israel refuses to alert US over Iran attack

They are a sovereign nation.

Why should they feel the need to check off with us before they act in their own national defense?
Reply With Quote
  #4 (permalink)  
Old 11-13-2011, 09:40 AM
1069's Avatar
Bookworm.
 
Join Date: Nov 2009
Posts: 5,073
Thanks: 4,721
Thanked 4,834 Times in 2,602 Posts
Default Re: Israel refuses to alert US over Iran attack

Quote:
Originally Posted by The silenced majority View Post
They are a sovereign nation.

Why should they feel the need to check off with us before they act in their own national defense?
Exactly. Why should they?
They do whatever they want, and then we send our military to support and defend whatever they choose to do.
That's the way it's supposed to work. I mean, it's always worked that way in the past. Why change things now?
Reply With Quote
  #5 (permalink)  
Old 11-13-2011, 09:45 AM
Banned
 
Join Date: Oct 2007
Location: PNW
Gender: Male
Posts: 70,513
Thanks: 22,404
Thanked 18,921 Times in 13,936 Posts
Default Re: Israel refuses to alert US over Iran attack

Quote:
Originally Posted by The silenced majority View Post
They are a sovereign nation.

Why should they feel the need to check off with us before they act in their own national defense?
Maybe because if not for our support there would be no Israel. Just a thought.
Reply With Quote
  #6 (permalink)  
Old 11-13-2011, 09:46 AM
The silenced majority's Avatar
Counselor
 
Join Date: Dec 2009
Location: a lonely island known as Principle.
Gender: Male
Posts: 885
Thanks: 308
Thanked 332 Times in 242 Posts
Default Re: Israel refuses to alert US over Iran attack

Quote:
Originally Posted by 1069 View Post
Exactly. Why should they?
They do whatever they want, and then we send our military to support and defend whatever they choose to do.
That's the way it's supposed to work. I mean, it's always worked that way in the past. Why change things now?
The thing that should change is that we SHOULD NOT send foreign aid or military support to ANY country.

I could almost excuse providing foreign aid temporarily in the event of a natural or cataclysmic disaster, but the American people have always done that on their own & do not need the Government to do it for them.
Reply With Quote
  #7 (permalink)  
Old 11-13-2011, 09:47 AM
The silenced majority's Avatar
Counselor
 
Join Date: Dec 2009
Location: a lonely island known as Principle.
Gender: Male
Posts: 885
Thanks: 308
Thanked 332 Times in 242 Posts
Default Re: Israel refuses to alert US over Iran attack

Quote:
Originally Posted by Mikeyy View Post
Maybe because if not for our support there would be no Israel. Just a thought.
If a nation cannot survive without assistance, they are not autonomous (sovereign).
Reply With Quote
  #8 (permalink)  
Old 11-13-2011, 09:58 AM
Banned
 
Join Date: Mar 2011
Location: Shenandoah Valley Virginia
Gender: Female
Posts: 3,451
Thanks: 116
Thanked 553 Times in 426 Posts
Default Re: Israel refuses to alert US over Iran attack

I don't blame them. I wouldn't trust the current administration with any news i didn't want the enemy to find out.
Reply With Quote
  #9 (permalink)  
Old 11-13-2011, 10:04 AM
1069's Avatar
Bookworm.
 
Join Date: Nov 2009
Posts: 5,073
Thanks: 4,721
Thanked 4,834 Times in 2,602 Posts
Default Re: Israel refuses to alert US over Iran attack

Quote:
Originally Posted by Calypso Jones View Post
I don't blame them. I wouldn't trust the current administration with any news i didn't want the enemy to find out.
Exactly. We're not only retarded, but we're also completely untrustworthy (it goes with the territory; the retarded aren't able to keep secrets).
They'll let us know when it's time to send the money and troops.
Other than that, the less we know, the better.
Reply With Quote
The Following User Says Thank You to 1069 For This Useful Post:
  #10 (permalink)  
Old 11-13-2011, 09:48 PM
saltwn's Avatar
PW Enlightenment
 
Join Date: Oct 2007
Location: Esto perpetua
Posts: 82,492
Thanks: 55,866
Thanked 26,417 Times in 18,919 Posts
Send a message via AIM to saltwn Send a message via MSN to saltwn Send a message via Yahoo to saltwn
Default Re: Israel refuses to alert US over Iran attack

The US pqobably knows every step that will be taken. If iran thinks Israel is a loose canon they are more apt to initiate a first strike or incident. Where alies will gain world approval to retaliate. Jmo
__________________
Happy 100th Birthday, Lois Dickenson Malone!
Reply With Quote
Reply

Tags
alert, attack, iran, israel, over, refuses

Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On

Forum Jump


All times are GMT -5. The time now is 09:04 PM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.7
Copyright ©2000 - 2020, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.

Content Relevant URLs by vBSEO 3.2.0