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Old 02-18-2008, 09:31 PM
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Action Taken Against 911 Officials Who Put Woman On Hold

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Brenda Orr, 53, was smoking in bed and couldn't get out as it erupted in flames at her Doylestown home on Jan. 29. She died in the fire.

The call that was answered after seven rings sparked controversy.

Dispatcher 1: "911, can you hold one second, please?"

Orr: "No I can't. It's an emergency, 9-1-1 emergency. 3-4-0 Doyle, bed on fire."

(Delay)

Dispatcher 2: "Thanks for holding. 911, where is your emergency?"

On Wednesday, Bucks County authorities disciplined 11 operators and four supervisors. No one was fired.

Officials said the operators are being retrained and there is a new procedure for distributing calls to operators.

Bucks County officials admitted big mistakes were made when Orr called 911 for help as her bed burned.

"The call rang six times that was wrong. When the call was answered the caller was put on hold that was wrong. There's indication she was treated discourtesyly, that was wrong," Jim Cawley, chair of the Bucks County Commission, said.

The frantic call for help came from inside a burning Doylestown home at 10:31 a.m. on Jan. 29.

Only it wasn't answered fast enough and when it was picked up Orr was then put on hold for 27 seconds. Then a second dispatcher picked up the call.

The line stayed open but it was too late.

"None of the 10 dispatchers gave a reasonable explanation as to why they were unavailable to answer the call," Brent Wiggins, emergency communications director, said.

County officials said standard procedure wasn't followed. Ten operators could have answered the call but didn't, and supervisors who were on the floor were not monitoring the staff.

According to county officials, the 15 workers on that day have all been disciplined but decline to go into specifics about what action was taken against them.

Officials outlined new and stricter procedures Wednesday including forbidding a 911 call ever to be put on hold.
As an aside, the article doesn't mention that the lady mentioned to the dispatcher that she was disabled and couldn't get out of the bed...

Now you would THINK that this story would have the operators wringing their hands with guilt until the day they die and publicly acknowledge their sorrow and remorse...

But, as unions are wont to do...

Dispatchers Involved In 911 Controversy File Grievances

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A group of emergency dispatchers are filing grievances after they were disciplined for their response to a 911 call. The call involved a disabled woman who called the emergency number to report her bed was on fire on Jan. 29.

Bucks County authorities said 10 emergency dispatchers were not busy when Brenda Orr's call came in. Investigators said it took 27 seconds before someone answered the call, and then she was put on hold for another 27 seconds.

Orr died in the fire.

Operators are being retrained, and there's a new procedure for distributing calls to operators.

A union said 11 dispatchers are filing grievances over their discipline.

County officials said the dispatcher who answered the phone should not have.
Anyone wanna bring back stockades?...
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A guy pulled out a gun and pointed it at me in traffic, then followed me around. I turned into the first business I saw open (it was early in the morning); he followed me into the parking lot. I called 911. It rang. I was put on hold. I was put on hold again. Never did get to report it. The guy finally disappeared, but I imagined all day I was seeing his pick up! That was Houston, Tex. in the 80's.
I don't know how many people they got working for them, but they need more operators!
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A guy pulled out a gun and pointed it at me in traffic, then followed me around. I turned into the first business I saw open (it was early in the morning); he followed me into the parking lot. I called 911. It rang. I was put on hold. I was put on hold again. Never did get to report it. The guy finally disappeared, but I imagined all day I was seeing his pick up! That was Houston, Tex. in the 80's.
I don't know how many people they got working for them, but they need more operators!

I think 911 is broken everywhere. It seems to be here.

One of the police officers who used to come in my store regularly told me an interesting story a few years ago. He tried to call in a drunk driver on his day off. He stopped at a pay phone and called, identified himself as an off duty police officer, gave his name and badge number and told the woman what the emergency was. She would not let him finish but instead interrupted to demand his home address. He told her he was not AT home. She said she could not make a report until she got his home address.

Needless to say he had completely lost sight of the drunk by the time she let him get off the phone. He got the tag number but by the time they located the car, it was the next day and whoever was driving had sobered up. Somehow they had made it home without incident.

What prompted him to tell me this story was that I told him that I refuse to call 911. I had figured out that if I called 911 it took 10 to 15 minutes for a patrol car to arrive. If I called straight through to the police switchboard, it was 2 to 5 minutes. Since the only time I ever called them was for a fight breaking out or something like that, I really did not want to wait 15 minutes for help.
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In response to the parent article,this is yet another example of accountability failure. The Supervisor should have been dismissed and a warning issued to the 911 operators...
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