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Old 09-15-2011, 01:15 PM
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You're more than welcome to do some reearch on your own and set the parameters yourself but so far the facts are.

Since 1975: Violent incidents
Unions-9000
KKK-0
Where do you create your facts? That isn't true according to this:
Ku Klux Klan - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
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Where do you create your facts?
The key word is "create."

He just made them up.


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Old 09-15-2011, 01:21 PM
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Actually....I think I found one of your sources....

National Institute for Labor Relations Research | a non-profit research facility analyzing and exposing the inequities of compulsory unionism National Institute for Labor Relations Research
a non-profit research facility analyzing and exposing the inequities of compulsory unionism.

Not biased at all is it....

But even if we credit it with accuracy, it notes:

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For instance, while the Institute has recorded 8,799 incidents of union violence since 1975, only 1,963 arrests and 258 convictions have been found.
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So where's the condemnation of implicit violence in these actions?? Leave the racist element out of the picture and lets look at this side of the story. The ONLY thing the union came out against was the racism, not one word about the threats implied in the actions.
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I feel embarrassed for you.... My comment was directed towards the union leadership who decried the racism, but let the implicit threats contained in the actions of thier membership go without comment. Also, your response to IP's comment was about the ILWU's actions, not these folks. All the discussion about this story centers around the racism, yet IMO, the biggest problem is the violent threats being made, not the racism.
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So any comments about what I was talking about - UNION LEADERSHIP'S FAILURE TO CONDEMN THE VIOLENCE AND INSTEAD ONLY FOCUSING ON THE RACISM? Any comments on that or do you plan on trying to further derail the discussion away from this issue and instead try to keep it focused on a separate topic that you can defend??? I never said ONE WORD about YOU not condemning union violence, my comment was CLEARLY directed towards union leadership, yet YOU CHOSE to make it sound like I was directing towards you.
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Isn't this what you already said on the first page as well?


For some people, you'll just have to keep repeating yourself and hope that maybe they'll recognize it...
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They can't. They just read into it what they want and assume that is what you said.
Now then, how about we end this stupidity and get back to reality...
My comments were from my VERY FIRST POST ABOUT THIS PART OF THIS ISSUE directed towards the union, not the people on this board. Maybe I should have put that part in the first sentence instead of the second one in my first post, but I made the assumption that people here have the intelligence to read past one sentence in a post. Apparently, I was mistaken. I guess that in the future I'll try to put all relevant informationint he first sentence of my posts so that you aren't forced to take the extra effort to actually read a whole post. Basically, Coyote, AK and foundit you're all FOS. Instead of reading what I posted, you just jumped to a wrong conclusion and then refused to back away from your position. NO WHERE in any of my posts in this thread do I ever state, imply or insinuate that any members here do support this kind of violence. I've seen members here apologize and rationalize the violence carried out in Longview, but never explicitly support it. What I have seen is UNION LEADERSHIP refusing to denounce the violence in this instance and instead only denounced the racism. If you'd care to discuss that issue, I'm your huckleberry, otherwise pack it in your collective asses.
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Now then, how about we end this stupidity and get back to reality...
FS - again and again and again - I'm not talking about your comments - I'm talking about some of the stuff others here have said.
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Where do you create your facts? That isn't true according to this:
Ku Klux Klan - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
I did see that and the five listed confrontations in it. Was looking for a total number but never found it.
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Actually....I think I found one of your sources....

National Institute for Labor Relations Research | a non-profit research facility analyzing and exposing the inequities of compulsory unionism National Institute for Labor Relations Research
a non-profit research facility analyzing and exposing the inequities of compulsory unionism.

Not biased at all is it....

But even if we credit it with accuracy, it notes:
Never said you had to like the source but it is the only one I found with statistics as I'm sure you have found as well.
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