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Old 08-30-2011, 08:56 PM
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Mlurp, do you feel that perhaps we should suspend most of our foreign aid until we get our deficit and debt under control?
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Mlurp, do you feel that perhaps we should suspend most of our foreign aid until we get our deficit and debt under control?
As with a heck of a lot of everything else, ... But in a manner that doesn't sink the ship.

WASTE is involved in every govt. program and I believe they create it for a reason.

Every elected and department head should first take a pay cut, no if's ands or butts.
Stop all of our Wars and place the troops where they are needed to protect the homeland.
And IF jobs can be created let our troops and the very unemployed have and equal shot at them.

Only one area I know of where we should spend $ is our infrastructures and as this is so large take the near cheepest bids.

I could go on & on but you get the point. Now are you sure your question has everything to do with our part in feeding people that were dying of hunger?

Were we need to cut back on our foreign aid is not so much in aid in feeding as much as the very much more that is total waste we give out to far to many places.

Just bring up the budget used in our foreign aid programs.
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Old 08-31-2011, 07:18 AM
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Comet, anyone see this on the waste/fraud being spent on just two areas from the wars in Afghan/Iraq.

http://www.politicalwrinkles.com/his...tml#post340209

And consider what I gave as opinions.
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Wasn't that during Bill Clinton's watch? The same one who wouldn't send tanks to support our troops.

And what else would most dems do. And our current POTUS is listening to the Hawks, why?

It is costing him support from his base yet he still sticks to these losers in Iraq, Pakistan and Afghanistan..

There has to be a reason why he is taking his time to do what was the only reason I voted for him.

Man I dislike a lier.

If anyone wants to settle our debt it should start with bring our troops home not taking from seniors or the Vets who earned what little they get.

And this morning I saw where one reporter for Fox News was at the boarder crossing in CA. and they got 3 cars in the short time he was reporting all with harder drugs which bring in more $ for the cartels.

But where do they get Heroin from? Which was stuffed in the battery of one car and in other places.
Another was in the drive shaff of a PU truck. Sense the poppy season is over in Afghanistan, I would think from our enemy.

And more and more are using the harder drugs in America. Making our police forces work harder to enforce the laws. So our troops might be used to fight these battles. And I include the many gangs causing a lot of our problems in about every place.
Cause we have a war we are losing right here in America.
So between more family disturbances (which are on the rise every where here) and other broken laws like drinking and driving which is also on the rise each police department is trying hard to keep up.

One job I would never want and I grew up thinking I would become one. I had a chance when I got out of the Army but sense the N.J. state trooper said, "we need guys like you"

And I just got out of the Nam. I felt no way do I want to kill another person. And got up and left.
good background. Somali Civil War - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

To do a further interesting read just go to "Somalia" in Wiki. Prehistory is interesting too.
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But Africa has changed. It was once the center of the civilized world...they had universities in Africa before the Europeans had ever even considered making their kings literate.
Okay. Let's just say Africa will never change much.
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But Africa has changed. It was once the center of the civilized world...they had universities in Africa before the Europeans had ever even considered making their kings literate.
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Okay. Let's just say Africa will never change much.
As IP points out it was a great location long ago, and the rise on mankind. As American has changed over time why can't Africa?

In time and it has started up in the north, the rest of the Nation/Country can & will change with the times sooner or later.

Just to much happening to have it not change in time. Maybe in the beginning like you say, by not much.

Yet it has done it by that much already in several locations. In time it will like most places come full circle, as liberty is a driver that once started can't be completley stopped. Just take a look at Syria all the dead and a power that has it all, yet people aren't giving up with the peaceful protests.

And sooner or later if it continues they will be armed and in battles for their liberties.
Just as America did in the 1860's and the Rebels in Libya are doing today.

Our problem is we taken these liberties for granted for so long we are at a time where we don't get it. But that is just IMHO.
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Famine may go on through 2012...

Famine alert: West Africa still has time to avoid 2012 food crisis
December 12, 2011 : A Famine Early Warning System – which accurately predicted the 2011 drought in the Horn of Africa – warns that millions of West Africans may face a food crisis in 2012.
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Africa looks like it might be hit once more by a food crisis, this time in the arid Sahel region of Western Africa. But the good news is that the world’s Famine Early Warning System (FEWS) is giving West African countries and donor nations a period of time to prepare, says the aid group Oxfam. Early reports suggest that as many as 6 million people in Niger and 2.9 million people in Mali live in vulnerable areas, where low rainfall, falling groundwater levels, poor harvests, lack of pastureland, rising food prices, and a drop in remittances from family members living abroad are starting to take their toll.

Changing weather patterns have hit the Sahel region as recently as 2010, and many people who are most vulnerable in the looming food crisis are those who had sold off their livestock and seed crops in order to survive the 2010 drought, and now have fewer assets to draw on in the future. “The parallels between the Horn of Africa famine and the early warnings in West Africa are striking,” says Stephen Cockburn, regional campaign and policy manager for Oxfam’s Dakar office. “The good news is that the early warning systems in place are working this year far better than before, and that gives us an opportunity to act earlier,” Mr. Cockburn says. “No one can say in a few months' time that they didn’t know this was coming.”

What gives aid groups like Oxfam the ability to plan ahead is a complex system of information that relies on everything from satellite imagery and ground censors to the assessments of agronomists and food-relief workers on the ground. On the tech side, there is the Famine Early Warning System (FEWS), funded and run by the US Agency for International Development (USAID) in partnership with the US Geological Survey and a number of UN relief agencies. And on the UN ground assessment side, there is the Food Security and Nutrition Analysis Unit of the UN’s Food and Agriculture Organization. Taken together, these two systems are getting better and better at predicting food crises, and giving aid groups the time to respond.

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Send a few massacre squads to exterminate the azzh*les who call themselves war lords, and then let the people work it out for themselves how to better manage their land. If any other war lords pop up after the extermination, send in the exterminators again, and again, and again. No food!
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Manitou you didn't know we have sent some special ops teams into the jungle to do just that, it mae the news last month...

And my to waltky for adding to this (I thought dead) thread.. Your one poster for finding older threads to add new news to..
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Manitou you didn't know we have sent some special ops teams into the jungle to do just that, it mae the news last month...

And my to waltky for adding to this (I thought dead) thread.. Your one poster for finding older threads to add new news to..
I didn't know that, but those "war lords" do need to be exterminated. I'm waiting for the peanut gallery to chime in about extermination of "humans", and all that.
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