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That doesn't work...

Wanna make a bet?...

Heath Ledger just died...

Are you going to tell me that the NYT won't have a story that has something like the phrase "Ledger starred in movies such as "blah blah blah and blah blah blah..."?...

According to you, that irrelevant!!...It doesn't MATTER what movies he was in...Did the movies cause his death?...Were they "directly involved"?...Of course not, so the NYT should just not mention it at all...

Absurd logic, ain't it?...
You are comparing apples and oranges.

The only reason Ledger's death gets more than a paragraph on page twelve is BECAUSE he starred in those movies. He is front page news because he is a celebrity.

Off the top of your head name 3 movie stars.

Now name even ONE professor at Columbia. (Aside from the guy in the article.)
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That doesn't work...

Wanna make a bet?...

Heath Ledger just died...

Are you going to tell me that the NYT won't have a story that has something like the phrase "Ledger starred in movies such as "blah blah blah and blah blah blah..."?...

According to you, that irrelevant!!...It doesn't MATTER what movies he was in...Did the movies cause his death?...Were they "directly involved"?...Of course not, so the NYT should just not mention it at all...

Absurd logic, ain't it?...
It's not relevant what movies Ledger was in. *shrug* While it may be reported as additional information, the additional information has no bearing on the real story which is Heath Ledger died.
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Actually, where someone works can make a big difference to a story like this one. Would it have been just as unimportant if the person was working for the department of homeland security? How about CNN?

The job can make quite a difference on this kind of story.

It's unfortunate, but it's true.
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Actually, where someone works can make a big difference to a story like this one. Would it have been just as unimportant if the person was working for the department of homeland security? How about CNN?

The job can make quite a difference on this kind of story.

It's unfortunate, but it's true.
Explain how the public knowing that this man worked at Columbia is of any importance.
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Old 01-22-2008, 07:44 PM
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You are comparing apples and oranges.

The only reason Ledger's death gets more than a paragraph on page twelve is BECAUSE he starred in those movies. He is front page news because he is a celebrity.

Off the top of your head name 3 movie stars.

Now name even ONE professor at Columbia. (Aside from the guy in the article.)
Nice try, but doesn't add up...

All I have to do is find a story in which someone NOT famous has their job shown to dispel your accusation...

That took ALL of 4 seconds...

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Michael Ruiz de Somocurcio, a health insurance executive from Clifton, N.J.
Read the whole article...

Does the story have ANYTHING to do with his job?...Does his location have ANYTHING to do with the story?...

I think you know the answer...

And that's done 40 thousand times a day...Why they decided NOT to do it in the Columbia case would make anyone with an IQ above double digits think this very question...

"Why do you selectively chose to point out people's location and occupation in your articles with the EXCEPTION of a Columbia University professor whose apartment contained pipe bombs and an anti-Semetic?"...

I pretty sure I know the answer...You refuse to come up with one...
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Explain how the public knowing that this man worked at Columbia is of any importance.
Because someone who is teaching students is someone who is making bombs. If he's making bombs, what is to say that he's not teaching the students to make bombs?
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Because someone who is teaching students is someone who is making bombs. If he's making bombs, what is to say that he's not teaching the students to make bombs?
And this is why you interview the students. If he was, then it's a relevant part of the story. If he's not, it's not. The only reason to bring Columbia into the picture was to smear it. It is basically relating that the university is some how responsible for the off-duty actions of it's employee.
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Actually, where someone works can make a big difference to a story like this one. Would it have been just as unimportant if the person was working for the department of homeland security? How about CNN?

The job can make quite a difference on this kind of story.

It's unfortunate, but it's true.
Exactomundo...

And as I've shown, Columbia is a hotbed for leftwing antics, so mentioning it actually has MORE to do with this story than if the guy were someplace else...

And if anyone thinks I'm wrong, fine...

But it's still the obligation for the news outlet to provide that information and let the readers decide...
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On rereading the article from The Times more closely, I noted that the reporters gave Dr. Clatts place of employment as National Development and Research Institutes where directs the organization’s Institute for International Research on Youth at Risk. And also that he is a Professor in Puerto Rico. The Daily, however, only noted that he is a Professor at Columbia. Further, The Times article indicates that the reporters interviewed Clatts's colleagues at the Research Institutes and that he may currently be in Vietnam.

A little Googling lead me to the National Development and Research Institutes' website where Dr. Clatts' employment in all three capacities is confirmed.

NDRI :: About Us :: Senior Staff

So it would be just as legitimate to chastise The Daily for failing to reveal that Clatts is involved with a program that lends itself to frequent travel outside the U.S.
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On rereading the article from The Times more closely, I noted that the reporters gave Dr. Clatts place of employment as National Development and Research Institutes where directs the organization’s Institute for International Research on Youth at Risk. And also that he is a Professor in Puerto Rico. The Daily, however, only noted that he is a Professor at Columbia. Further, The Times article indicates that the reporters interviewed Clatts's colleagues at the Research Institutes and that he may currently be in Vietnam.

A little Googling lead me to the National Development and Research Institutes' website where Dr. Clatts' employment in all three capacities is confirmed.

NDRI :: About Us :: Senior Staff

So it would be just as legitimate to chastise The Daily for failing to reveal that Clatts is involved with a program that lends itself to frequent travel outside the U.S.
Only if there was something that legitimately connects the dots...

Saying sombody was a farmer and dealt drugs doesn't mean anything because the connection isn't there...

Saying sombody was a COP and dealt drugs is a different story altogether...

That's the logic applied here...

Pipe bombs and a professor in Peurto Rico?...that makes no sense...There's no obvious connection...

Pipe bombs and a professor from the National Development and Research Institutes?...that makes no sense either...There's no obvious connection...

Pipe bombs and doing work in Vietnam?...There's no obvious connection for a third time...

But pipe bombs and a professor at Columbia?...That DOES make a connection...

As shown, Columbia is a hotbed for radicals...They shout down speeches they don't agree with, invite the President of Iran to lecture, and have a "noose case" that is looking more and more like a hoax everyday...

So mentioning that as the place of employment would make the reader understand more clearly where this guy's coming from...At the very LEAST the atmoshere he deals with...

And the NYT did just the opposite...They hid it...

Or they didn't do their research...You make the call...
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