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WASHINGTON (AP) -- A special commission is urging the government to raise federal gasoline taxes by as much as 40 cents per gallon over five years as part of a sweeping overhaul designed to ease traffic congestion and repair the nation's decaying bridges and roads.


Last year's Minneapolis bridge collapse killed 13 and spotlighted the nation's decaying infrastructure.

The two-year study being released Tuesday by the National Surface Transportation Policy and Revenue Study Commission, the first to recommend broad changes after the devastating bridge collapse in Minnesota last August, warns that urgent action is needed to avoid future disasters.

Under the recommendation, the current tax of 18.4 cents per gallon for unleaded gasoline would be increased annually for five years -- by anywhere from 5 cents to 8 cents each year -- and then indexed to inflation afterward to help fix the infrastructure, expand public transit and highways as well as broaden railway and rural access, according to persons with direct knowledge of the report, who spoke to The Associated Press on condition of anonymity because the report is not yet public.

The report also calls for rebuilding and expanding the national rail network to meet a growing demand for alternatives to congested highways.

Continuing to apply patches to the nation's aging infrastructure is "no longer acceptable," and without dramatic changes, "the nation's system of transportation will further deteriorate," according to the report, portions of which were read to the AP.

But the 12-member commission's proposals, which are expected to cost $225 billion each year for the next 50 years, face internal division. The commission's chairwoman, Transportation Secretary Mary Peters, and two other members oppose gas tax increases and were issuing a dissenting opinion to the report calling instead for private-sector investment and tolls.

The gas tax has not been increased since 1993, and recent efforts by Congress to raise it have faltered over the objections of the Bush administration. The tax increase being proposed is designed to take effect in 2009, after President Bush leaves office.
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I have a feeling that this will NOT pass... raising gas prices by 40 more cents a gallon??? Even though it will be a "slow increase", it will still put a hardship already in place for some commuters.
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I have a feeling that this will NOT pass... raising gas prices by 40 more cents a gallon??? Even though it will be a "slow increase", it will still put a hardship already in place for some commuters.
Commuters who are contributing to the decay of the roads. It's completely logical and reasonable. I think that the study should have started with taking all taxes for gas and diverting them from the random programs they go to and make it for road repairs. I am also of the opinion that we could tack on a small surcharge for every over-the-road shipment made.
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Gas prices in the US will be increasing toward the $3.50 per gallon national average. That is going to cause inflation for all goods and services dependent on the price of gas, such as food prices at the local supermarket, the price of clothing that is trucked into chain stores, etc....

My second concern if the last over budget Highway Bill that was passed with numerous pork projects attached. Are we willing to pay brutal prices at the pump only to find out we are funding eradicating tree snakes in Hawaii (a butt kiss for the billionaire big sugar industry), additional funding for converting Tobacco crop lands to other crops (a butt kiss to Phillip Morris and other big Republican donors in the Tobacco industry) or even worse - subsidies for multi billionaire ExxonMobile.

What we really needed was a Highway Bill without pork, take away all subsidies to oil corporate giants, take away all subsidies for corn ethanol, and provide incentives for the development of ethanol from switchgrass and biodeisel from algae.
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What we really needed was a Highway Bill without pork, take away all subsidies to oil corporate giants, take away all subsidies for corn ethanol, and provide incentives for the development of ethanol from switchgrass and biodeisel from algae.
That's not just the Highway Bill either...

That's ALL of 'em...
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Yes, it is absolutely every bill that goes through Congress. The one that is appalling is the yearly "Emergency Funding" Bill for our troops in the mideast (allegedly). So why isn't that funding absorbed into the yearly Dept of Defense Bill. The DOD budget is designated for the military only - it is protected. So when you hear a legislator shedding tears for our troops in the mideast to promote an Emergency Funding Bill, what you are looking at is a spending on credit addict going through withdrawal symptoms and wanting the next fix. How about eradicating tree snakes in Hawaii, a landscape/maintenance contract on a closed military base in Alaska for some legislator's relative, or promotion for the annual Lewis and Clark celebration in the NW states coming out of money for our troops while our troops are having to scavenge for metal in landfills to retrofit their vehicles, buy their own QUALITY bullet proof vests, etc...

They just finished all the funding bills for fiscal 2008, and there has bee a 426% increase in pork according to the conservative Heritage Foundation.
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Yes, it is absolutely every bill that goes through Congress. The one that is appalling is the yearly "Emergency Funding" Bill for our troops in the mideast (allegedly). So why isn't that funding absorbed into the yearly Dept of Defense Bill. The DOD budget is designated for the military only - it is protected. So when you hear a legislator shedding tears for our troops in the mideast to promote an Emergency Funding Bill, what you are looking at is a spending on credit addict going through withdrawal symptoms and wanting the next fix. How about eradicating tree snakes in Hawaii, a landscape/maintenance contract on a closed military base in Alaska for some legislator's relative, or promotion for the annual Lewis and Clark celebration in the NW states coming out of money for our troops while our troops are having to scavenge for metal in landfills to retrofit their vehicles, buy their own QUALITY bullet proof vests, etc...

They just finished all the funding bills for fiscal 2008, and there has bee a 426% increase in pork according to the conservative Heritage Foundation.
Your a little off on that...

You want to know why the "emergency funding" wasn't absorbed into a Dept. of Defense Bill...

It was...

Although there is no SINGLE Dept. of Defense bill...It's part of an even larger spending bill...It's not a standalone...

Here's the lastest one from last month...

Senate approves $70 billion for Iraq-Afghanistan

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The Senate, by a vote of 70-25, approved $70 billion for combat operations in Iraq and Afghanistan, adding another political victory to the recent string of wins by President Bush and GOP congressional leaders.

21 Democrats, including Armed Services Committee Chairman Carl Levin (Mich.), and Sen. Joe Lieberman (ID-Conn.) voted for the bill, while Sen. Gordon Smith (R-Ore.) was the only Republican to vote against it.

The House is expected to take up the Iraq-Afghanistan funding provision on Wednesday as part of its own debate over the larger $516 billion omnibus spending bill.
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I am also of the opinion that we could tack on a small surcharge for every over-the-road shipment made.
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Almost all deliveries and transportation tickets have already been "fuel surcharged" to defer the increased costs of fuel. Those trucks on the highway also already pay some pretty large fees for their licenses and permits and others fees imposed on them(typical license plate fees are in the hundreds of dollars not to mention other fees and required stickers). These charges will be passed on to the consumers so as always any tax on a business is an increase of costs to the consumer.

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Last year's Minneapolis bridge collapse killed 13 and spotlighted the nation's decaying infrastructure.
The two-year study being released Tuesday by the National Surface Transportation Policy and Revenue Study Commission, the first to recommend broad changes after the devastating bridge collapse in Minnesota last August, warns that urgent action is needed to avoid future disasters.
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But the investigation determined that the bridge collapsed because of an engineering/construction error. A steel plate that supported steel beams was of insufficient thickness. Kind of reminds me of how the 9/11 commission about an attack became an investigation on the "Iraq war" that EVERYONE agrees had "no connection".
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