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Old 03-18-2011, 06:38 PM
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If there is a strike I don't see how anyone can force them back except in the case of a national emergency. Or possibly a state emergency if it was nurses or police.
except they are forbidden to strike by state law...
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Old 03-18-2011, 06:41 PM
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Of course it does since you called legisitaltors who actually stayed and did the job they were voted for "cowards" it was important for you to remember who the real cowards were. Your guys who ran away
It doesn't matter if the open meetings act was violated... Deal with the real issue.

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you are assuming it doesn't. Most of the time liberals like this judge simply falsify the claim that it isn't legitimate to simply stop the law or delay it.
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She isn't enforcing the law. She is citing an opinion and delaying a legitimate voted law to be put in place by the people who voted for it when they put those people in power.
She is dealing with several conflicting laws and thus an injunction is the best treatment until resolved which is what she did...
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Old 03-18-2011, 07:24 PM
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It doesn't matter if the open meetings act was violated... Deal with the real issue.
That is the real issue.



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She is dealing with several conflicting laws and thus an injunction is the best treatment until resolved which is what she did...
And she's full of it because she ignores the fact the democrats were not excluded. They RAN AWAY. She ignores that fact completely.

You can't claim people who ran to another state were excluded when they chose to leave and not do their job. Its beyond stupid. Not to mention a judge is not responsible for enacting laws and can't be block the governor and legislature in a dispute over the procedures under which a law is passed.

There is no law that backs this bitch. Its a purely liberal political stunt.

If you can't see the activism you are as blind as I thought you were.
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That is the real issue.
So you're admitting that the real issue has nothing to do with the Democrats leaving, it has everything to do with the Republicans not following the open meetings act... Good.

None of which are a sign of judicial activism... Try again.


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And she's full of it because she ignores the fact the democrats were not excluded. They RAN AWAY. She ignores that fact completely.

You can't claim people who ran to another state were excluded when they chose to leave and not do their job. Its beyond stupid. Not to mention a judge is not responsible for enacting laws and can't be blocked in a dispute over the procedures under which a law is passed.

There is no law that backs this bitch. Its a purely liberal political stunt.

If you can't see the activism you are as blind as I thought you were.
It doesn't matter if they ran away. Them being there or not has nothing to do with the open meetings act. Try again.
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It doesn't matter if they ran away. Them being there or not has nothing to do with the open meetings act. Try again.
Actually it does. The state congress was in session and such times the open meetings acts are substantually shorter and possibly non-existant from what I have been reading.

Looks to me like they give a two hour notice and that was sufficient. It would have been different had the congress not been in session but since it was the dems should have and are expected to be there anyway so no 48 hour notice is required.
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Actually it does. The state congress was in session and such times the open meetings acts are substantually shorter and possibly non-existant from what I have been reading.

Looks to me like they give a two hour notice and that was sufficient. It would have been different had the congress not been in session but since it was the dems should have and are expected to be there anyway so no 48 hour notice is required.
Apparently it's only sufficient if there is a quorum and the Republicans knew there wouldn't be...
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except they are forbidden to strike by state law...
I did not know this. Bad law. But if it is a law, it should be adhered to.
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Apparently it's only sufficient if there is a quorum and the Republicans knew there wouldn't be...
A quorum was reached or a vote would of never been taken.
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A quorum was reached or a vote would of never been taken.
Ummm no. A quorum of the legislatures who didn't leave isn't the same as quorum defined by the open meetings act.
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Ummm no. A quorum of the legislatures who didn't leave isn't the same as quorum defined by the open meetings act.
I thinks you need to research my friend.
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