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The article misrepresents Matthews point. He never blamed Bush for the uprising. His point was that there was no need to invade Iraq. When the people have had enough, they will take care of business themselves. They don't need outside intervention. You can't force democracy or freedom on another nation. The shift has to come from within. That was the point.
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The article misrepresents Matthews point. He never blamed Bush for the uprising. His point was that there was no need to invade Iraq. When the people have had enough, they will take care of business themselves. They don't need outside intervention. You can't force democracy or freedom on another nation. The shift has to come from within. That was the point.
not always.
these r 2 different situations.
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OMG!
You guys are HILARIOUS in how you rabidly attack the left with a thorough loss of perspective.

Some on the right are trying to CREDIT BUSH for the Egypt protests against a leader that has some serious issues...

The Plum Line - Conservatives keep hogging credit for Mideast protests
Rightbloggers Credit Bush for Egypt Uprising -- Then Blame Obama for Egypt Uprising - New York News - Runnin' Scared
American Power: Bush Deserves Credit For What's Happening in Egypt
Egypt, George W. Bush, and the fight for freedom | THE TYGRRRR EXPRESS

And it's funny to talk about "rushing to judgment".
I'm curious how many conservatives actually bothered to watch Matthews diatribe.
I'm not a fan of his, but he was not blaming Bush for Egypt.
He was simply pointing out the bloody truth of uprisings.
If anything, Matthews was trying to criticize Bush for not recognizing that such uprisings would be bloody.
Not sure how the blow-hard got that (and I have no interest in listening to him try to flounder through such statements), but he was not blaming Egypt on Bush...


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...and the left babbles on about people like Hannity and Beck being whacked...
It is amazing how often you try to back-handedly (and nonsensically) try to defend them.
Just out of curiousity, is it possible for you to admit that NO MATTER WHAT Matthews says, that in no way changes what category Hannity or Beck may be in???

Quite frankly, Beck IS whacked.
And it doesn't matter if Matthews gargles monkey pee on camera. That doesn't change the fact that Beck IS whacked.
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OMG!
You guys are HILARIOUS in how you rabidly attack the left with a thorough loss of perspective.

Some on the right are trying to CREDIT BUSH for the Egypt protests against a leader that has some serious issues...

The Plum Line - Conservatives keep hogging credit for Mideast protests
Rightbloggers Credit Bush for Egypt Uprising -- Then Blame Obama for Egypt Uprising - New York News - Runnin' Scared
American Power: Bush Deserves Credit For What's Happening in Egypt
Egypt, George W. Bush, and the fight for freedom | THE TYGRRRR EXPRESS

And it's funny to talk about "rushing to judgment".
I'm curious how many conservatives actually bothered to watch Matthews diatribe.
I'm not a fan of his, but he was not blaming Bush for Egypt.
He was simply pointing out the bloody truth of uprisings.
If anything, Matthews was trying to criticize Bush for not recognizing that such uprisings would be bloody.
Not sure how the blow-hard got that (and I have no interest in listening to him try to flounder through such statements), but he was not blaming Egypt on Bush...

It is amazing how often you try to back-handedly (and nonsensically) try to defend them.
Just out of curiousity, is it possible for you to admit that NO MATTER WHAT Matthews says, that in no way changes what category Hannity or Beck may be in???

Quite frankly, Beck IS whacked.
And it doesn't matter if Matthews gargles monkey pee on camera. That doesn't change the fact that Beck IS whacked.
I wonder if anyone realizes this entire article in the op is based on the opening show teaser, which it misreprested completely. It failed to address anything actually discussed in the story itself. Quick to judge, slow to understand.
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not always.
these r 2 different situations.
Different, yet the same. Bush tried to force Iraq to be a democratic society at the point of a gun. That doesn't work. When a society desires democracy and freedom enough, when that desire becomes stronger than their fear, they will rise up and take it. Like the saying goes, when the student is ready, the teacher will appear.
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Different, yet the same. Bush tried to force Iraq to be a democratic society at the point of a gun. That doesn't work. When a society desires democracy and freedom enough, when that desire becomes stronger than their fear, they will rise up and take it. Like the saying goes, when the student is ready, the teacher will appear.
True, Grasshopper but if the student is dead the teacher has no pupil.
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True, Grasshopper but if the student is dead the teacher has no pupil.
Hopefully the student will be ready before staring up at the roots of daisies. (I thought of that while meditating and walking across rice paper without cracking it)
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