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Actually, they do.

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Then what's the defense for NOT doing it that way?...
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Well then what's so cruel and unusual?...

Sounds to me there's more pain and anguish from a rectal exam than this...
I'm no doctor. An executioner is supposed to be fully trained in these fields when carrying out capital punishment. I am very surprised to read that some of them were not. I am not against capital punishment.

If an executioner is fully trained, then how could they not have been told that there would be pain when the other two poisons are administered? This happens when a prisoner is in agony. The easiest thing for the executioner is to just administer an OD of Sodium Pentothal. I don't know if even that is painful. I am not there.

We know they are in a room where they can't be seen administering the lethal combination.

If the USSC or the Senate decides not to strike down capital punishment, but instead seek another way to carry out the execution, just what other methods are left?

We know about hangings, firing squads, gas chambers, and electric chairs. And unless there are more skilled executioners for the purpose of administering lethal cocktails, the death penalty may as well be history.

I can think of one case in California where Robert Alton Harris killed two boys in 1978, and ate their hamburgers. When they pleaded for mercy, Harris said "God can't help you now. You are both going to die." And he shot them both.

It took 14 years for the sentence to be carried out in the gas chamber. Not before an endless array of appeals and last-minute appeals. Harris's attorney claimed the man had brain damaged. It sure didn't look like he had brain damage.

On the night of his execution, there were appeals going back and forth between Harris's attorneys and the courts. When the attorneys appealed to an appellate court, the USSC stepped right in and overturned the appeals. This must have happened three times that night. I remember Sandra Day O'Connor being in charge of the denying of stays of execution that night.

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Oh believe me...I'm just saying that to shut them up...

If it were up to me, lethel injection would be a very long process...

And I'd start with hot sauce...
I agree with you on this one. They are saying that the punishment is cruel, when in fact the crime that they committed, which is usually murder, is what was really cruel! I don't care if the process is quick or takes a long time, I would just like to see the death penalty applied shortly after sentencing and not up to 20 years later.
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I agree with you on this one. They are saying that the punishment is cruel, when in fact the crime that they committed, which is usually murder, is what was really cruel! I don't care if the process is quick or takes a long time, I would just like to see the death penalty applied shortly after sentencing and not up to 20 years later.
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I am against the death penalty. So this is another argument that wouldn't be necessary.
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Just to show how far you could go with this cruelty BS I have heard that the dreams induced by the use of fentanyl(one of the recommended drugs) are extremely disturbing and almost horror film like. Carry this thought on out.
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I am against the death penalty. So this is another argument that wouldn't be necessary.
So then how do you punish the life sentence criminal that kills his guards or "feeders" or another inmate?
How do you differentiate the punishment of a common husband/wife-killer from that of a serial murderer?
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So then how do you punish the life sentence criminal that kills his guards or "feeders" or another inmate?
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So then how do you punish the life sentence criminal that kills his guards or "feeders" or another inmate?
How do you differentiate the punishment of a common husband/wife-killer from that of a serial murderer?
I guess you have to be careful if you have a dangerous person to take care of. Maybe complete isolation.
Secondly I don't presume to even care what the difference is. If you take a life you can't live in the outside world again. Thats pretty simple
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I guess you have to be careful if you have a dangerous person to take care of. Maybe complete isolation.
Secondly I don't presume to even care what the difference is. If you take a life you can't live in the outside world again. Thats pretty simple
My point exactly. I just shortened yours to the only two relevant words. CAN'T LIVE

Complete isolation qualifies as "torture".

"Be careful" rates right up there with "we should be able to stop any and all terrorist attacks" so lets not fight them here or THERE.
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