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"A law enforcement memo based on information provided by DHS and obtained by Fox News suggested strong suspicion linking Jared Loughner, the man accused in the Tucson shooting on Saturday, to what it called an 'anti-ZOG (Zionist Occupational Government) and anti-semitic' group known as American Renaissance."

On its television broadcast, FNC has further described this organization as one that believes in the doctrine of "racial supremacy." (This horrid doctrine has many manifestations, from the awful description of blacks as "mud people" to the equally odious description of Jews as "pigs" or "apes.")

It is just another example of the fact that the shooter (if, indeed, Loughner is the guilty party) is mentally unhinged--and not a card-carrying member of the Tea Party or the political right in general.
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Let's be honest pjohns...

This turd Jared could've been arrested with an "I hate Palin and love Socialism" t-shirt carrying a "No war for oil" poster and a photocopied picture of his Democrat registation stapled to his head and they'll STILL say "Must be from the Tea Party"...

There is NOTHING that will make them change their tune...The round hole has been pre-selected...Now they're just trying to get the square peg to fit...
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Let's be honest pjohns...

This turd Jared could've been arrested with an "I hate Palin and love Socialism" t-shirt carrying a "No war for oil" poster and a photocopied picture of his Democrat registation stapled to his head and they'll STILL say "Must be from the Tea Party"...

There is NOTHING that will make them change their tune...The round hole has been pre-selected...Now they're just trying to get the square peg to fit...
Speaking of round holes....


instead of blaming the left...blaming the right...how about looking at the rhetoric in these recent years and consider that maybe, just maybe, it isn't so good for our country.
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Speaking of round holes....


instead of blaming the left...blaming the right...how about looking at the rhetoric in these recent years and consider that maybe, just maybe, it isn't so good for our country.
And what is your proposal?
Would it be limits on rhetoric (speech)?
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instead of blaming the left...blaming the right...how about looking at the rhetoric in these recent years and consider that maybe, just maybe, it isn't so good for our country.
Any student of history knows the rhetoric of recent years is tame compared to the rhetoric and political excoriations of the past. Nut jobs are nut jobs, always have been and always will be. Humans have always been spouting rhetoric and always will be. That said, I'm seeing a lot of nut jobs in the press and on TV trying to tie this sad incident to one party or group after another. Stupid?

cnredd is correct in his assertion, in fact his assertion has already been borne out and proven right here on the forum. Sadly.
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Any student of history knows the rhetoric of recent years is tame compared to the rhetoric and political excoriations of the past. Nut jobs are nut jobs, always have been and always will be. Humans have always been spouting rhetoric and always will be. That said, I'm seeing a lot of nut jobs in the press and on TV trying to tie this sad incident to one party or group after another. Stupid?
cnredd is correct in his assertion, in fact his assertion has already been borne out and proven right here on the forum. Sadly.
Agreed.

Yet, ironically, it seems the only bitching seems to be when it slams the right.
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And what is your proposal?
Would it be limits on rhetoric (speech)?
Absolutely not.

I have no proposals, except to people's own consciences.
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From FNC:

"A law enforcement memo based on information provided by DHS and obtained by Fox News suggested strong suspicion linking Jared Loughner, the man accused in the Tucson shooting on Saturday, to what it called an 'anti-ZOG (Zionist Occupational Government) and anti-semitic' group known as American Renaissance."

On its television broadcast, FNC has further described this organization as one that believes in the doctrine of "racial supremacy." (This horrid doctrine has many manifestations, from the awful description of blacks as "mud people" to the equally odious description of Jews as "pigs" or "apes.")

It is just another example of the fact that the shooter (if, indeed, Loughner is the guilty party) is mentally unhinged--and not a card-carrying member of the Tea Party or the political right in general.
No it's proof he's a bigot who hangs out with other bigots and that it is par he targeted someone aligned with a negro administration and anyone who has a kind word for Hispanics (a minority).
He doesn't show insanity in believing in an anti Zionist movement just meanness.
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Let's be honest pjohns...

This turd Jared could've been arrested with an "I hate Palin and love Socialism" t-shirt carrying a "No war for oil" poster and a photocopied picture of his Democrat registation stapled to his head and they'll STILL say "Must be from the Tea Party"...

There is NOTHING that will make them change their tune...The round hole has been pre-selected...Now they're just trying to get the square peg to fit...
No let's Really be honest. You are skimming over the responsibility SP and Rush and Glen (and whomever is their ultimate paymaster) must take for this incident and the increasing violence and "vitriol" period since the HC debate.
Jump the gun before the attack and try to run some damage control?
In this case that's a bit despicable.
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AR checked their organization's records going back twenty years and Loughner never subscribed to American Renaissance's publications.

American Renaissance: Was Jared Lee Loughner tied to anti-immigrant group? - CSMonitor.com
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